Prior Tiburon CEO Summits (2006-2007)

Tiburon held CEO Summits VIII-XI in San Francisco at the offices of Paul, Hastings, Janofsky, & Walker. Tiburon CEO Summits will continue to be held semi-annually. Details of Tiburon CEO Summits X-XIII are below; for details of earlier Summits click here: 2010, 2008-2009, 2006-2007, 2004-2005, & 2001-2003.
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Tiburon CEO Summit XIII: October 9-10, 2007

Tiburon CEO Summit XIII was held October 9-10 2007 in San Francisco, CA at the Ritz Carlton Hotel. The Summit started at 7:45am on Tuesday, October 9, included a networking dinner that evening in Tiburon, & concluded at 2:00pm on Wednesday, October 10. Over 100 senior industry executives & media representatives took two days out of their busy schedules to participate. Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors), Stephanie DiMarco (CEO, Advent Software), Mike Fraizer (CEO, Genworth Financial), George Gatch (CEO, JP Morgan Funds Management, JP Morgan Chase), John Gunn (CEO, Dodge & Cox), Ron Peyton (CEO, Callan Associates), and Don Phillips (Managing Director, Corporate Strategy, Research, & Communications, Morningstar) made general session presentations. Three general session panel discussions included a consumers panel, an advisors panel, & a distributors panel.

Attendees at Tiburon CEO Summit XIII held October 9-10, 2007 in San Francisco, CA

Attendees

Tiburon CEO Summit XIII had 81 Tiburon client attendees, including:

  • Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors)
  • Vijay Advani (Executive Vice President, Global Advisor Services, Franklin Templeton Investments, Franklin Resources)
  • Gurinder Ahluwalia (President, Genworth Financial Asset Management, Genworth Financial)
  • Tim Armour (Managing Director, Strategic Relationships & Business Development, Morningstar)
  • Chuck Baldiswieler (Group Managing Director, TCW Advisor Group & Private Client Services, Trust Company of the West (TCW), Societe Generale)
  • Bill Barrett (CEO, Fiduciary Trust International of California, Fiduciary Trust International, Franklin Templeton Investments, Franklin Resources)
  • Bob Belke (Managing Director, Lovell Minnick Partners)
  • Bob Beriault (President, Fiserv Trust Company, Fiserv)
  • Jenny Bolt (Executive Vice President, Operations & Technology, Franklin Templeton Investments, Franklin Resources)
  • Kurt Brouwer (CEO, Brouwer & Janachowski)
  • Mike Byrum (President, Rydex Investments, Security Benefit Group)
  • Bob Cassato (President, Wood Logan, John Hancock Financial Services, Manulife Financial)
  • Lily Chang (Chief Technology Officer, Advent Software)
  • Amit Choudhury (Managing Principal, Pinnacle Partners)
  • Dennis Clark (CEO, Advisor Partners)
  • Craig Cloyed (President, Calvert Distributors, Calvert, Unifi Mutual Holding Company)
  • Ron Cordes (Chairman, Asset Mark Investment Services, Genworth Financial Asset Management, Genworth Financial)
  • Ben Cukier (Partner, FT Ventures)
  • Jeff Cusack (Managing Director, Sales & Marketing, Rex & Company)
  • Dick Davies (Senior Managing Director, Defined Contribution, Alliance Bernstein Institutional Investments, Alliance Bernstein, Axa Group)
  • Stephanie DiMarco (CEO, Advent Software)
  • John Dixon (Chairman, Mutual Service Corporation, LPL Financial Services)
  • David Doll (CEO, Kanaly Trust Company)
  • Martuza Ferdous (President, E Pluribus, Open Finance Network)
  • Ken Fisher (CEO, Fisher Investments)
  • Jon Foster (President, Howard Capital Management, E*Trade Financial)
  • Mike Fraizer (CEO, Genworth Financial)
  • George Gatch (CEO, JP Morgan Funds Management, JP Morgan Asset Management, JP Morgan Chase)
  • Mike Gianoni (Executive Vice President, Check Free Investment Services, Check Free Corporation)
  • Keith Gregg (Co-CEO, First Allied Securities, Advanced Equities Financial Corporation)
  • John Gunn (CEO, Dodge & Cox)
  • Jim Hale (Founding Partner, FT Ventures)
  • Scott Hanson (CEO, Hanson McClain)
  • Bill Harris (Chairman, My Vest Corporation)
  • Keith Hartstein (CEO, John Hancock Funds, John Hancock Financial Services, Manulife Financial)
  • John Iachello (Chief Operating Officer, Pershing Advisor Solutions, Pershing, The Bank of New York Mellon Corporation)
  • Denise Iverson (Chief Financial Officer, Dunham & Associates Investment Counsel)
  • Bryce James (CEO, Smart Portfolios)
  • Steve Janachowski (Chief Investment Officer, Brouwer & Janachowski)
  • Alistair Jessiman (Managing Director, Wealth Management, Novantas)
  • Tif Joyce (President, Joyce Financial Management)
  • Jeff Lancaster (Principal, Bingham, Osborn, & Scarborough, Boston Private Financial Holdings)
  • Stephen Langlois (Executive Vice President, Research & Financial Planning, LPL Financial Services)
  • Greg Leekley (CEO, Open Finance Network)
  • Derek Lemke-Von Ammon (Partner, FT Ventures)
  • Tom Lydon (President, Global Trends Investments)
  • Joel Marks (Vice Chairman, Advanced Equities Financial Corporation)
  • Pat McClain (Senior Financial Advisor, Hanson McClain)
  • Sarah McKenzie (Senior Vice President, Brokerage & Managed Products, Ameriprise Financial)
  • Karl Mills (President, Jurika, Mills, & Keifer)
  • Brian O’Toole (CEO, Asset Mark Investment Services, Genworth Financial Asset Management, Genworth Financial)
  • Curt Overway (President, Managed Portfolio Advisors, Natixis Global Advisors, Natixis, Banque Populaire Group & Caisse D’Epargne Group)
  • David Perkins (President, Hatteras Investment Partners)
  • Dave Petersen (President, Financial Services Advisory)
  • Ron Peyton (CEO, Callan Associates)
  • Don Phillips (Managing Director, Corporate Strategy, Research, & Communications, Morningstar)
  • Andy Putterman (President, Fortigent, Lydian Trust Company)
  • Marty Ratner (Chief Financial Officer, Niemann Capital Management)
  • Alan Reid (CEO, Forward Management)
  • Terry Reitan (CEO, Trust Company of America)
  • Neal Ringquist (President, Advisor Software)
  • Chuck Robinson (Senior Vice President, Investment Products & Services, Northwestern Mutual)
  • John Rooney (Managing Principal, Commonwealth Financial Network)
  • Jim Ross (President, Intermediary Business, Street Global Advisors, State Street Corporation)
  • Jeff Roush (Acting President, Agile Wealth Management, Agile Group)
  • Skip Schweiss (Executive Vice President, Client Services Group, Fiserv Investment Support Services, Fiserv)
  • Bob Smoke (CEO, Seton Smoke Capital Management)
  • Alan Spiegelman (Wealth Management Advisor, Northwestern Mutual)
  • Thomas Sponholtz (CEO, Rex & Company)
  • David Steinwedell (President, Wells Fund Management, Wells Real Estate Funds)
  • Richard Steiny (President, Asset Mark Investment Services, Genworth Financial Asset Management, Genworth Financial)
  • Nick Stuller (President, Discovery Database, Financial Information Group)
  • John Surface (Executive Vice President, Corporate Development, Ever Bank Financial)
  • Frank Trotter (President, Ever Bank Direct, Ever Bank Financial)
  • Bill Urban (Co-Managing Principal, Bingham, Osborn, & Scarborough, Boston Private Financial Holdings)
  • Steve Warren (Chief Operating Officer, My Vest Corporation)
  • John Watts (Vice Chairman, BNP Paribas Asset Management, BNP Paribas)
  • Jane Williams (CEO, Sand Hill Advisors, Boston Private Financial Holdings)
  • Mike Wilson (Executive Vice President, Strategic Growth Group, State Street Global Advisors, State Street Corporation)
  • Chris Wolfe (Chief Investment Officer, Private Banking & Investment Group, Global Wealth Management Group, Merrill Lynch)
  • Johs Worsoe (Executive Vice President, Global Markets Group, Union Bank of California, Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group)

Media Representatives

Tiburon CEO Summit XIII had eight Tiburon select media attendees, including:

  • Bill Bisson (Group Publisher & Editorial Director, Crain Financial Group, Crain Communications)
  • David Geracioti (Editor-in-Chief, Registered Rep, Penton Business Media)
  • Dan Jamieson (Senior Editor, Investment News, Crain Communications)
  • Janet Levaux (Managing Editor, Research, Highline Media, Summit Business Media, Wind Point Partners)
  • Peter Ortiz (Reporter, Ignites, Money-Media)
  • Chris Sandlund (Executive Editor, FundFire, Money-Media)
  • John Sullivan (Editor, Boomer Market Advisor, Wisener Publishing)
  • Steve Winks (Editor, Senior Consultant)

Also in attendance for Tiburon CEO Summit XIII was Tiburon employee Brian Cotter (Marketing Manager).

Tiburon Managing Principal Chip Roame kicks off Tiburon CEO Summit XIII by addressing the state of the financial services industry

Opening Keynote Presentation:
Chip Roame
(Managing Principal,
Tiburon Strategic Advisors)

Tiburon CEO Summit XIII kicked off with a keynote presentation by Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors). Chip welcomed the attendees, gave an overview of Tiburon, addressed the state of the financial services industry, offered the group an organized list of current industry issues to consider, and introduced the five guest speakers.

Tiburon Managing Principal Chip Roame opened CEO Summit XIII by welcoming the Tiburon clients and giving a brief overview of the past six months' most newsworthy events & most insightful Tiburon research findings, while offering an assessment of the state of the financial services industry. Mr. Roame then introduced the six CEO Summit guest speakers, including Stephanie DiMarco (CEO, Advent Software), Mike Fraizer (CEO, Genworth Financial), George Gatch (CEO, JP Morgan Funds Management, JP Morgan Chase), John Gunn (CEO, Dodge & Cox), Ron Peyton (CEO, Callan Associates), and Don Phillips (Managing Director, Corporate Strategy, Research, & Communications, Morningstar). Mr. Roame ended his comments by sharing the Tiburon CEO Summits vision and introducing the attendees.

State of the Financial Services Industry

Mr. Roame first laid out a synopsis of the past six months' most newsworthy events and most insightful Tiburon research findings, outlining his expectations for the state of the financial services industry over the coming years, as consumers liquefy their assets but the competitive playing field gets more heated. He focused his comments on the key issues that would likely be addressed by the general session guest speakers, the topics that he hoped would be addressed by the general session panel discussions, and the questions that he suggested be debated in the break-out sessions:

Key Drivers

  • US households control almost three-quarters of all investable assets, more than half invested via financial advisors
  • Many baby boomers face a retirement income challenge for five reasons, including the elimination of so many defined benefit plans and the challenges faced by the social security system
  • Three-quarters of baby boomers over the age of 55 have less than $100,000 in investable assets and the consumer households savings rate continues to hit new all time lows
  • The median value of baby boomers' inheritance is only $48,000; very few receive more than $100,000
  • Beyond the liquefaction, another opportunity is presented by the risk of baby boomers living too long, with estimates that more than half of 65 year olds will reach age 85 and over one-third will reach 90; amongst 65 year old couples, there is a 50% chance that one (or both) will live another twenty-five years
  • Consumer households have almost $23 trillion of investable assets, $35 trillion of financial assets, and $70 trillion of total assets, with an important distinction between the high dollar average and the much lower median amounts
  • Hence, the solution to the perceived savings crisis will be baby boomers' liquefaction of their retirement plan assets, personal assets, and other illiquid assets, such as the rollover of 401k plan balances, the sale of houses, and the sale of private businesses

Markets & Distribution Channels

  • Close to 400,000 financial advisors are in the market, including about equal numbers of wirehouse & other employee brokers (92,000), life & property & casualty insurance agents (87,000), bank brokers & trust officers (82,000), and independent reps (also 82,000)
  • The number of independent advisors (the combination of independent reps and fee-only financial advisors) has far surpassed the number of wirehouse & other employee brokers (112,000 versus 92,000), and the number of independent reps alone will soon surpass the number of wirehouse & other employee brokers (currently 82,000 versus 92,000)
  • Wirehouse and retail banks continue to dominate control of consumer investable assets (31% and 27% respectfully) but independent advisors continue to outgrow the competition (18% assets growth rate for fee-only financial advisors and 14% for independent reps)
  • Fidelity Investments recently surpassed Merrill Lynch as the largest financial services firm when ranked by client assets, and Schwab will also surpass Merrill Lynch at current growth rates in two-to-three years, further evidencing the growth in new channels (discount brokerage, fee-only financial advisors, and independent reps)

Products & Services

  • Mutual funds are the dominant investment product ($10.8 trillion assets) and are used heavily by both the fast growing independent rep and fee-only financial advisor markets (39% & 61% of assets respectively) suggesting that mutual funds aren't going away, even if much of the reporting and media focus is on other products, including exchange traded funds, separately managed accounts, and hedge funds. Mr. Roame called attention to the facts ($10.8 trillion in mutual funds versus ETFs at $433 billion & separately managed accounts at $720 billion (collectively $1.1 trillion)), encouraging the group to maintain perspective
  • There is some trend to packaged solutions; for instance, target date mutual funds have quickly gathered over $100 billion (although Mr. Roame cautioned that it appears that consumers are misusing these funds, mixing them into portfolios containing other funds, hence altering their overall asset allocation)
  • Packaged fee-account assets have grown substantially over the past eight years to over $1.5 trillion but wirehouses' client assets are still just 15% in fee-account programs and similarly only 16% of independent rep clients assets are in fee-account programs; amazingly, banks have done slightly better with 17% of their client assets in fee-based trust accounts but only 4% of bank trust department assets are invested with third-party managers. Furthermore, the key products in the wirehouse channel are evolving quickly, with fee-based brokerage accounts giving way to broker wrap accounts (due to the abolishment of the Merrill Lynch rule) and separately managed accounts giving way to unified managed accounts (due to the later being a superior product platform)
  • More broadly, the investment process is being polarized with twin growth patterns in both market-linked products and alternative investments. Mr. Roame argued that exchange traded funds may be the fundamentally most important product invention since the mutual fund in 1940, and hypothesized that they may ultimately shift many financial advisors' role to that of managing a series of index products and focusing excess time on delivering a broader set of wealth management services
  • Similarly, dozens of firms are entering into the hedge funds business - Citigroup purchased one-year old Old Lane; Morgan Stanley acquired multiple hedge fund firms. Mr. Roame also noted that the attendees at a recent SEI conference maintained an impressive focus on revenues, which they noted are increasingly driven by their lower asset hedge funds
  • Mr. Roame argued that investments may matter less than wealth management services as baby boomers move from the liquefaction & retirement income challenge years into either their health care & retirement income challenge years (for the less affluent) or their estate planning & charitable giving distribution years (for the more affluent)
  • For instance, many baby boomers face a health care crisis, with up to 50% likely to require nursing home care but only 7% owning long-term care insurance. Similarly, the fast growing independent rep market puts almost one-third of its client assets in annuities, but over three-quarters of annuity sales represent transfers from existing policies
  • More affluent households will unlikely have retirement income or health care insurance issues but will instead be faced with issues surrounding the most tax-efficient estate planning & charitable giving methods
  • The brokerage firms have moved to license their reps to sell insurance (69%) but few have yet done so (15%)
  • And amazingly, more that half (58%) of consumers still lack a basic will
  • Mr. Roame pointed to Merrill Lynch's Total Merrill advertising campaign as an example of the industry's likely evolution

Tactical Issues

  • On a more tactical level, Mr. Roame said that many financial advisors have focused their energies on the 40 million households (out of 117 million) that control 90% of all investable assets ($19.8 trillion out of $22.8 trillion)
  • As competition heats up, Mr. Roame said that the game will increasingly be won through marketing. Mr. Roame argued that client retention and consolidation is now more critical as baby boomers liquefy their wealth. Similarly, he noted that client referrals appear to account for 55% of incremental new clients. Few financial advisors utilize target market strategies, even though these techniques have proven to lead to increased numbers of referrals, result in higher close rates, and lower costs to serve clients
  • But Mr. Roame also offered some caution, saying that while almost all industry executives are trying to push financial advisors to serve higher net worth clients, the fact growing independent rep channel has an average account size of just a modest $142,000
  • Technology has become a great equalizer across many segments of the industry. Both large and small banks and mutual fund companies are able to compete, and technology has empowered the independent financial advisor industry, eliminating the need for financial advisors to be employed at large firms
  • Aside from technology, people are the key leverage point across many industry segments. Investment professionals determine the success of client portfolios; distribution professionals increasingly lead many of the firms; and individual financial advisors increasingly control their clients
  • Numerous financial advisor merger & acquisition models are finally gaining some traction, with the prior week's multiple acquisitions by Focus Financial Partners being held out as an example

Strategic Conclusions

  • Industry mergers & acquisitions continue at all levels of the industry with Power Corporation of Canada's acquisition of Putnam Investments, TD Bank Financial Group's acquisition of Commerce Bank, Bank of America's acquisition of US Trust, Merrill Lynch's acquisition of First Republic, TD Ameritrade's acquisition of Fiserv's custody business, Fiserv's subsequent acquisition of Check Free, the Bank of New York's acquisition of Mellon Financial, State Street Corporation's acquisition of Investors Bank & Trust, and City National Bank's acquisition of Lydian Wealth Management representing a wide range of examples
  • There has been a focus on eliminating (perceived) conflicts of interest, with two full-service brokerage firms exiting the investment management business. Mr. Roame challenged the group to consider Smith Barney's & Merrill Lynch's strategies versus those of Morgan Stanley, Wachovia Corporation, & UBS, which appear to be increasing their bet on asset management
  • There is also a substantial bifurcation happening in the asset management business, with a handful of firms (American Funds, Vanguard, Fidelity Investments) exceeding $1 trillion assets under management, but 84% of all mutual fund companies managing less than $10 billion
  • And overall there has been more bad news for product companies as distribution continues to take power from manufacturing, with recent models - only multiple style portfolio programs being a key example
  • Financial services private equity transactions are prominently in the news, with recent acquisitions of both First Data and Sallie Mae
  • Financial services venture capital also is quite newsworthy with exchange traded fund companies, financial advisor roll-up companies, and other firms raising substantial capital

Guest Speaker Introductions

After offering up that broad synopsis, Mr. Roame introduced the six guest speakers and gave a brief overview of what he expected each speaker would address:

CEO SummitI XIII Guest Speaker Stephanie DiMarco (CEO, Advent Software)

CEO Summit XIII Guest Speaker Mike Fraizer (CEO, Genworth Financial)

CEO Summit XIII Guest Speaker George Gatch (CEO, JP Morgan Funds Management, JP Morgan Chase)

CEO Summit XIII Guest Speaker John Gunn (CEO, Dodge & Cox)

CEO Summit XIII Guest Speaker Ron Peyton (CEO, Callan Associates)

CEO Summit XIII Guest Speaker Don Phillips (Managing Director, Corporate Strategy, Research, & Communications, Morningstar)

  • Mike Fraizer (CEO, Genworth Financial) will offer a synergistic follow-up to Tiburon Managing Principal's Chip Roame's presentation, arguing that the US is a nation at risk and financial services firms need to take a leadership position. He believes that the US faces a dual savings & protection crisis and also will suggest some constructive social security solutions. Mr. Fraizer will also address solutions that Genworth Financial is developing to help solve the retirement income and health care funding challenges
  • Ron Peyton (CEO, Callan Associates) will address developments in both the defined benefit and defined contribution markets, large markets unto themselves and often the trend setter in the high net worth and retail markets. Mr. Peyton will share key institutional investing concepts, outline recent Callan manager searches, and explain the future of defined contribution plans' asset allocations
  • George Gatch (CEO, JP Morgan Funds Management, JP Morgan Chase) will offer some provocative insights on several points, including the familiarity bias, target date mutual funds, the democratizing of alternative investments, the growth in open architecture, and the importance of investment performance. Mr. Gatch can also be called upon to address, with first-hand knowledge, institutional mergers & acquisitions
  • Don Phillips (Managing Director, Corporate Strategy, Research, & Communications, Morningstar) will offer provocative insights on performance measurement, including comparing total returns to investor returns, comparing hedge funds to hedge-like mutual funds, and calling attention to the rapid changes in the growing exchange traded funds market
  • Stephanie DiMarco (CEO, Advent Software) will address the impact of several key industry trends, including the growth of assets worldwide, the explosion in alternative investment instruments, and the increasing demands for compliance & reporting, and she will highlight the opportunities for investment managers to harness technology to efficiently capitalize on these trends
  • John Gunn (CEO, Dodge & Cox) will discuss Dodge & Cox's philosophies around running investment management organizations, including its reasons for maintaining its independence and its methods for maintaing a consistant investment philosophy

Tiburon Strategic Advisors

After concluding his opening remarks on the State of the Industry, Mr. Roame took a few minutes to discuss Tiburon and the Tiburon CEO Summits. In updating the group of clients on Tiburon's activities, Mr. Roame noted that:

  • Tiburon has positioned itself uniquely as a market research & strategy consulting firm; the firm's services include a series of research reports, conference speeches, market seminars, and market research & strategy consulting services, with the later two accounting for more than two-thirds of Tiburon's revenues
  • The firm is built upon four key ingredients - written industry knowledge, consulting skills, research capabilities, and industry experience
  • The firm's three key objectives for the next six months include growing its research staff, transitioning clients to its Research Report Retainer, and considering the addition of new principals
  • The firm has served over 300 corporate clients (100 of which were represented at the CEO Summit) and completed over 1,000 projects since its founding in 1998
  • The firm's knowledge base includes mutual funds distribution, separately managed account programs, alternative investments, wealth management services, insurance products, banking services, the fee-only financial advisor market, the CPA firm market, the family office market, and various international markets
  • The firm has published twenty-eight research reports, sends free weekly research reports to 55,000 industry executives, manages 13 free financial advisor benchmarking tools, manages three innovative executive programs, and is proud to be hosting Tiburon CEO Summit XIII

Tiburon CEO Summit XIII

After briefly addressing Tiburon, Mr. Roame gave a brief history of the Tiburon CEO Summits, offered highlights regarding the attendee group, and thanked the CEO Summit Planning Committee members & CEO Summit XIII Sponsors:

  • Tiburon's CEO Summits were created after Mr. Roame noted the lack of a CEO-level conference across traditional industry lines, and yet saw the consistency of issues being addressed by these same executives
  • Tiburon's CEO Summits have evolved from a just a handful of industry colleagues meeting in Tiburon to 100+ CEO level Tiburon clients attending two day conferences at the Ritz Carlton Hotel in San Francisco, CA and New York, NY
  • Mr. Roame reiterated the two themes of all CEO Summits - Challenging Conventional Wisdom and Maintaining a Consumer Orientation
  • Mr. Roame thanked the CEO Summit Planning Committee members (Tim Armour, John Cammack, Dennis Clark, Tif Joyce, Tom Lydon, Kevin Malone, Kirk Michie, Skip Schweiss, and David Smith) for their support in securing guest speakers, securing sponsors, nominating attendees, and acting as facilitators
  • Mr. Roame also thanked the Tiburon CEO Summit XIII sponsors (Check Free, Dunham & Associates, Genworth Financial, Pershing, and TD Ameritrade), represented by Mike Gianoni, Jeffrey Dunham, Ron Cordes, John Iachello, and Tom Bradley, respectfully, whose financial support allows the CEO Summits to be held at the Ritz Carlton Hotel and attendance to be open to 100 CEOs
  • Finally, Mr. Roame closed this section of his presentation by sharing some statistics about the attendees - 100% are Tiburon clients, 92% are C-level executives, 47% traveled from back east, and about one-third each represent product, distribution, and advisory companies

Guest Presentations

Aside from Mr. Roame's opening keynote presentation, six guest presentations anchored the CEO Summit agenda:

CEO Summit XIII Guest Speaker Mike Fraizer (CEO, Genworth Financial)

Mike Fraizer (CEO, Genworth Financial)

Mike Fraizer has been CEO of Genworth Financial since the firm completed its 2004 initial public offering. Prior to joining Genworth Financial, Mr. Fraizer held several senior executive positions at General Electric from 1980 to 2004, including senior vice president of General Electric and chairman of General Electric Financial Assurance Holding from 1996 to 2004.

After an introduction by Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors) & Gurinder Ahluwalia (President, Genworth Financial Asset Management, Genworth Financial), Mr. Fraizer offered a synergistic follow-up to Tiburon Managing Principal's Chip Roame's presentation, arguing that the US is a nation at risk and financial services firms need to take a leadership position in addressing that risk, making the following points:

  • The remarks made in the presentation and during the question & answer time were requested not be posted publicly

CEO Summit XIII Guest Speaker Ron Peyton (CEO, Callan Associates)

Ron Peyton (CEO, Callan Associates)

Ron Peyton is CEO of Callan Associates, a privately held employee-owned company whose mission it is to deliver superior consulting solutions that help clients achieve their investment and business objectives. Mr. Peyton joined Callan Associates in 1974 and has since worked with large institutional investors to plan, structure, and evaluate investment programs, products, and organizations.

After an introduction by Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors) & Skip Schweiss (Executive Vice President, Fiserv Investment Support Services, Fiserv), Mr. Peyton addressed developments in both the defined benefit and defined contribution markets, large markets unto themselves and often the trend setter in the high net worth and retail markets, making the following points:

  • Mr. Peyton began by addressing the markets, offering some historical perspective, and reminding the group that, "it was the giant sucking sound of portfolio insurance that was the coup de grace for the 1987 market crash." The good news, he continued, was that, "it was over before anyone could do anything stupid." This allowed him to recollect a point made earlier the same day by John Gunn (CEO, Dodge & Cox) who said, "don't just do something, stand there," agreeing that the people who often make out the best in any panic are the ones who do nothing
  • He continued that, "beta has not been bad at all these past few years," pointing to the strong markets in recent years. "We are in the fifth longest running bull market in history, soon to move into fourth place; everyone likes to talk about the hot markets of the late 1990s, but the last few years have not been bad. We were supposed to be entering an era of low returns in the post technology bubble crash, but it has been anything but"
  • In the institutional world, Mr. Peyton believes that institutional investors learned long ago that you should, "structure portfolios for what you need, not necessarily to maximize returns." He believes strongly in diversification (saying that, "traditional investment managers in diversified portfolios always do well over the long-term"), that investors need to understand their strategies & investments, and that "bonds are the anchor"
  • He added that, most institutional investors do a poor job of entering new investment markets," while noting that "foundations & endowments usually lead defined benefit plans which lead defined contribution plans into new investments because for the former group it is their money and they can re-raise it while the middle group faces ERISA restrictions and the later money really belongs to participants"
  • Shifting to the defined contribution world, Mr. Peyton rattled off some important statistics - "42% of defined contribution plans offer company stock, 53% still offer money market funds, 88% now offer target date or target risk funds, and the move to socially responsible investing is real, with over 50% of defined contribution plans likely to have such an option within three years"
  • He said that, "asset allocation funds are growing the fastest, with target date funds alone being a choice in 49% of plans, up from just 38% fifteen months earlier, at least partially due to the Pension Protection Act." He believes that "target date funds will outgrow target risk funds, because they are good for novice investors"
  • In comparing the twin retirement markets, Mr. Peyton said that "defined benefit plans got the investments right but the contributions wrong. DC plans have both problems!" The only solution, he argued, is "to DB-ize the DC plans, which should include automatic participation and contribution levels"

In his question & answer time, Mr. Peyton offered the following answers to questions:

  • Ron was asked if bond market returns can be as strong in the next twenty years as they have in the past twenty years. Laughing, Ron said that, "he doubts it since the last twenty years have seen the greatest bond bull market in history"
  • "Hedge funds are being sold, not bought." Some consultants are selling investment strategies, rather than consulting. "Not all 7,500 hedge funds add value and plan administrators should not do anything that can not be explained to the next administrator of the plan." To a follow-on question, he added that, "hedge funds-of-fund fees are higher than they should be and alternative investment funds' fees are generally not sustainable"
  • "We will always find new ways to get ourselves in trouble as the root cause of most investing issues is the reach for returns"
  • Ron was asked his opinion of all the under funded defined benefit plans, and contrary to some other CEO Summit speakers who called this a crisis, Mr. Peyton said that, "the great thing about a bear market is that it forces companies & governments to fund their plans - the actuarial method works. Most of these plans will be fully funded in four or five years"

CEO Summit XIII Guest Speaker Don Phillips (Managing Director, Corporate Strategy, Research, & Communications, Morningstar)

Don Phillips (Managing Director, Corporate Strategy, Research, & Communications, Morningstar)

Don Phillips is managing director of Morningstar and is responsible for corporate strategy, research, and corporate communications. He was the first mutual fund analyst hired by the company in 1986 and has served on the company’s board of directors since 1999. He is also the first repeat speaker at a Tiburon CEO Summit, back by popular demand.

After an introduction by Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors) & Tim Armour (Managing Director, Strategic Relationships & Business Development, Morningstar), Mr. Phillips shared new Morningstar research that examines the dramatic difference between what mutual funds return versus what their investors actually realize. For the average equity fund, the difference is over 170 basis points, dwarfing the often discussed topics of expense ratios and trading costs. He made the following points:

  • Morningstar is now calculating a new variable that it calls the success ratio of mutual funds, which is the share of total returns that investors realize. Mr. Phillips quoted long-time Fidelity Magellan portfolio manager Peter Lynch, who said that, "Magellan was a great mutual fund; it is just too bad that it did not make any money for anyone." Mr. Phillips added that, "total returns are the right way to evaluate portfolio managers but consumers often do not capture the entire return due to weaknesses in human behavior which result from chasing performance, delayed purchases, early redemptions, and the inability to stay the course"
  • However, Mr. Phillips was not ready to let the mutual fund companies off the hook, adding that, "while mutual fund companies do not totally control investor returns, they can exercise some control through marketing, sales bonuses, etc. The point is balancing salesmanship with stewardship." He quipped that a few years ago, "everyone said that they wanted to be like American Funds but meanwhile they were introducing internet funds"
  • He also added that this is not a mutual fund specific issue, saying that, "the phenomenon is evident across mutual funds, hedge funds, index funds, and exchange traded funds"
  • The difference is the smallest in the municipal bond, balanced, and asset allocation fund categories because these are generally part of buy-and-hold investment strategies. "Mutual funds that have slower and steadier approaches to their investment returns result in better overall investor experiences," he added
  • Furthermore, as everyone knows, fund flows have been concentrated for several years. Mr. Phillips restated a long held Morningstar research conclusion that those flows have gone not to funds distinguished by active or passive investment strategies or load or no load pricing, but rather to funds which avoided the market timing scandals and with below average pricing in their respective channels; he added to this theory, saying that, "the winning fund companies also all have high success ratios"
  • Mr. Phillips closed his prepared remarks by offering the prescription that all CEO Summit attendees, financial advisors, distributors, and manufacturers, "are in the behavior modification business. The focus should be on sound asset allocation and disciplining investors' emotions to reduce mistimed purchases and sales. Mutual fund companies and financial advisors who work together toward this goal will greatly enhance the investor experience"

In his question & answer time, Mr. Phillips offered the following answers to questions:

  • "CNBC and the internet have taken all the disadvantages that the pros had and transferred them to individual investors"
  • Indexing does not magically solve the success ratio problem but indexing has, "raised the bar for active management, forcing active managers to add more value." That said, Mr. Phillips joked that, "without a high success ratio, indexing may be just a more cost effective way of getting bad returns"
  • Mr. Phillips also called attention to the rising costs & increasing risks in exchange traded funds, saying that, "there is a bifurcation going on with Barclays and State Street acting responsibly but some other firms trying to raise assets and sell their firms. Mutual fund and exchange traded fund firms appear to be on different paths, with mutual fund companies introducing core, target date, and asset allocation funds, while ETF companies are introducing niche asset class funds"
  • Hedge funds' potential is enticing but Mr. Phillips said that, "retail investors are not looking at the same hedge fund availability as David Swenson," making a humorous analogy to Keith Richards who, he said, "gets good heroin as compared to folks who follow his lead but get inferior product and then are surprised by their health problems"

CEO Summit XIII Guest Speaker George Gatch (CEO, JP Morgan Funds Management, JP Morgan Chase)

George Gatch (CEO, JP Morgan Funds Management, JP Morgan Chase)

George Gatch is CEO of JP Morgan Funds Management, where he oversees over $300 billion in assets. Mr. Gatch joined JP Morgan Chase in 1986 and has held numerous leadership positions throughout the firm in business management, marketing, and sales. Currently, Mr. Gatch leads JP Morgan's US mutual fund and retail businesses, including the firm's sub-advisory and managed account activities. Mr. Gatch also oversees JP Morgan's global money market fund business, which is the largest institutional money market fund complex globally.

After an introduction by Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors) & Dennis Clark (CEO, Advisor Partners), Mr. Gatch offered some provocative insights on several points including international investing, low correlation products, target date funds, the democratization of alternative investments, the growth in open architecture, and the importance of investment performance. The theme of many of his comments was that investing would be far different in the next 100 years than it was in the past 100 years:

  • Mr. Gatch made the point that many retail investors in both the US and in other countries have too much of their portfolios allocated to their home country stock market. "Investors anchor themselves to their own equity markets," he said. Meanwhile, he argued that asset classes are expanding widely; for instance, JP Morgan's Private Bank has expanded its use from three asset classes in 1997 to 21 in 2007 (including international, inflation protected bonds, private equity, commodities, & market neutral strategies), but amazingly, 64% of assets in defined contribution plans are still invested in large cap equities"
  • Mr. Gatch offered a wide range of investment product opinions, including that access to alternative assets classes with low or negative correlations is an advantage; shorting constraints limit many smart mutual fund managers from applying their full convictions; there is a lot of discussion regarding 130/30 funds and inflation protected funds and target date funds offer institutional quality diversification. He said that, "investors will increasingly use alternative investments, but so far their experience with non-traditional products has been limited." He argued that while market neutral funds have done poorly, others like inflation-protected bonds have done well. Investors should also consider commodity-linked products and mutual funds that short stocks"
  • Open architecture structures are driving mutual fund distribution, while proprietary distribution within major distributors is declining rapidly; Citi and Merrill Lynch sold their asset management subsidiaries, which is surprising because asset management has both higher margins and higher likely growth rates than brokerage. But there are select case examples holding their own; for instance, JP Morgan's Private Bank places 80% of its client assets with proprietary managers"
  • The market for third-party distribution is impossible to ignore, creating a huge opportunity for JP Morgan Asset Management
  • Investment performance and innovation will separate the winners from losers - "the only thing that matters is investment performance. Flows go to top performing funds and new strategies with good salespeople," said Mr. Gatch

In his question & answer time, Mr. Gatch offered the following answers to questions:

  • While JP Morgan is twentieth in mutual fund assets and would like to be higher, an acquisition of a mutual fund company is unlikely, with Mr. Gatch saying that he had two words for mergers - "they suck," noting though that the bank could easily acquire another bank, forcing him to integrate another asset management subsidiary
  • Mr. Gatch though did offer some wisdom on merger integration (gaining experience with both Fleming and One Group), saying that, "the key was to make decisions both quickly and transparently, because if you don't, then weeds grow"
  • JP Morgan is investing in sales, with 70 field people. Mr. Gatch said that, "he believes in having teams that understand their clients well, and has organized 23 people who go after the wirehouses in major metropolitan areas, 20 people who go after independent reps (the business he expects to grow the fastest in the next five years), 10 people who focus on the Chase retail bank branch system, and five others who go after just the top 1,100 RIAs"
  • He noted that he is aware of three annuities in registration that would allow, "an income stream to be guaranteed on an existing client portfolio"
  • Mr. Gatch revealed that he, "hates the separately managed accounts business because he does not like to give up the capacity" and he really does not like "to give his buys & sells to third-parties" but he realizes that "he has to do it as part of broader firm relationships"

CEO Summit XIII Guest Speaker John Gunn (CEO, Dodge & Cox)

John Gunn (CEO, Dodge & Cox)

John Gunn is CEO of Dodge & Cox, where he oversees almost $200 billion in assets under management in separate accounts and its four mutual fund offerings, including its stock fund, international stock fund, balanced fund, and income fund. Dodge & Cox has been remarkably successful since its founding in 1930; the firm has had terrific investment performance, typically shuns publicity, and avoided all of the recent mutual fund scandals. The firm has also long maintained a core set of principles, which are rarely discussed outside of the firm. Mr. Gunn joined Dodge & Cox in 1972, soon after earning his MBA from Stanford University. Mr. Gunn is also a trustee of the Dodge & Cox Funds and a member of Dodge & Cox’s Investment Policy Committee, Bond Strategy Committee, and International Investment Policy Committee.

After an introduction by Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors) & Karl Mills (President, Jurika, Mills, & Keifer), Mr. Gunn addressed Dodge & Cox's philosophies around running the firm, making numerous insightful points:

  • Dodge & Cox has long believed that the best strategy is, "to be distinctive in a fragmented market"
  • Mr. Gunn believes in keeping it simple - Dodge & Cox has just four mutual funds, no international separate accounts, similar holdings across accounts, a single investment philosophy, and a single office. “I love the mutual fund business because it allows us to focus; the separately managed accounts business is distracting because the clients are looking at tracking error and other crazy statistics”
  • More specifically, Mr. Gunn shared numerous Dodge & Cox management theories, including, "at Dodge & Cox we believe in a kind of financial Hippocratic Oath – first, do no harm. The higher your fees, the less your clients make. And we also believe in low turnover – one of our company mottos is - don’t just do something…stand there,” adding that, "the one who wins is the one who makes the fewest mistakes"
  • Dodge & Cox buys "companies' stocks that are out-of-favor or under a cloud, ones that are embarrassing to own if you reveal it at a cocktail party." And he added that, "we don’t believe that past price performance has anything to do with our desire to own or not own a stock; there isn’t a momentum bone in our bodies”
  • Mr. Gunn has a skeptical view of hedge funds, saying that they are, "just a reallocation of funds amongst the rich people," and recognizing that the market is a zero sum game, "so if so many hedge funds are doing so well, someone must be losing. No other business operates under so many unproven hypotheses. Some will do well, but collectively they will be disappointing. In the 1990s, the financial industry took investors over a cliff and now they are saying, ‘if you pay me more, I’ll do a better job"
  • Dodge & Cox believes in hiring as few people as possible. “We hired as few people as we could early in their careers and did not let the place become people-intensive. With only 53 shareholders, Dodge & Cox has a group-decision process, which constantly operates face-to-face in one location.”The firm hires young executives, trains them, and seeks to retain them, creating a common culture and investment philosophy that permeates the firm

In his question & answer time, Mr. Gunn offered the following answers to some questions:

  • The dominating investments theme going forward will continue to be the economic advance of the developing world. Fundamentally, the biggest world shift is coming from the 5 1/2 billion people in the underdeveloped world
  • Dodge & Cox' board members, "own 35%-50% of the firm." Mr. Gunn believes that going public, "would be a huge distraction"; he also believes that selling would "wreck the company." Dodge & Cox shareholders must sell their shares at ages 65 to 69 at book value, which is likely 2%-3% of fair value. Selling partners have, "a ten year claw-back where if the company is taken public, they would realize their proportion of the profits"

CEO Summit XIII Guest Speaker Stephanie DiMarco (CEO, Advent Software)

Stephanie DiMarco (CEO, Advent Software)

Stephanie DiMarco is CEO of Advent Software and has engineered the growth of the company from a startup in 1983 to its current status as one of the leading providers of software and services for the investment management industry, with more than 4,500 clients in 60 countries managing more the $14 trillion. After retiring in the late 1990s, Ms. DiMarco returned to Advent in 2003 and successfully led the company through a turnaround, introducing new products and transforming the firm's business model to be based on recurring revenues and term licenses, boosting the firm's stock price 500%. Today, the company is in a position of unprecedented strength and stability, with record revenues of $184 million in 2006.

After an introduction by Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors) & Tom Lydon (President, Global Trends Investments), Ms. DiMarco addressed the impact of several key industry trends (the growth of assets worldwide, the explosion in alternative investments, and the increasing demands for compliance & reporting), and highlighted the opportunities for investment managers to harness technology to efficiently capitalize on these trends, making the following points:

  • Ms. DiMarco began by offering up the following history of industry structural changes - "the 1970s brought deregulated commissions, the 1980s brought self-directed investors & tax-deferred retirement accounts, the 1990s brought mutual fund mania, and the 2000s are bringing globalization & alternative investments"
  • In this decade, she recognizes both the rise in global consumer wealth and the globalization of the investment management business, noting that, "there are eleven economies that have been growing 20%+ per annum for a decade"
  • Similarly, she believes that, "alternative assets, foreign money managers, and hedge funds are hot growth areas," saying that, "hedge funds have provided a new market for Advent; there were 600 hedge funds in 1990 and 9,600 in 2007 - and many of them are potential Advent clients."

In her question & answer time, Ms. DiMarco offered up the following answers to questions:

  • Ms. DiMarco recognizes that, "there is lots of competition in her industry," but that, "competition is very fragmented; it is the land of a thousand niches, adding that financial services companies account for 45% of the Standard & Poor's 500's earnings; segments include prime brokerage, institutional management, hedge funds, and private client services, each with its own regulations"
  • She sees tremendous opportunities across these segments, saying that, "what we try to do is understand and master new growing segments, build the technology, and leverage it. It's difficult to scale if you are doing a lot of customization; our best return on investment comes from off-the-shelf sales. Clients are telling us what they want and if it makes sense from a business standpoint, we build it"
  • Ms. DiMarco believes that she is a much better business person having taken some time off during the Internet bubble. "After retiring in the late 1990s and then coming back to turn the company around in 2003, I'm a different person," she said. "The toughest experiences make the best business people. You can’t make decisions or drive your company according to what Wall street thinks; if you let that drive your agenda, you will get confused about what is in the best interest of your company and your clients. I am trying to do what is best for the company and its shareholders"
  • She's also not anti-acquisition but her firm did get burned in the past by making acquisitions outside its core focus; "organic growth is Advent's best strategy," she added

General Session Panel Discussions

One of the key themes of every Tiburon CEO Summit is the need to more closely listen to clients. Tiburon CEO Summits' general session panel discussions (Ask the Consumers, Ask the Advisors, & Ask the Distributors) all allow Tiburon CEO-level clients to hear directly from their constituents in an unvarnished way. This is in sharp contrast to most CEOs' daily activities, where they are forced to rely on interpreting marketing data or listening to anecdotal stories from their sales forces. Addressing these clients first-hand through questions & answers helps Tiburon clients further consider innovative ideas for serving these different client groups.

Consumer Linda T. describes her need to find a financial advisor, acknowledging that if she were good at financial planning she would be in the business

Ask the Consumers

As has become tradition at Tiburon CEO Summits, four off-the-street consumers (Robert F., Alison N., Linda T., and John Y.) joined facilitator Tif Joyce (President, Joyce Financial Management) on the Ask the Consumers panel. Uniquely, the panel this time was made up specifically of next generation investors; all four were in their 30s and 40s engaged in relatively high paying occupations. Robert F. (not his real name) is a 40 year old MD and PhD, working as a clinician and pathologist. Alison N. is a 37 year old pediatrician. Linda T. is a 38 year old marketing executive. And John Y. is a 41 year old small business owner. They had many common views to share:

  • Several had started with a financial advisor. For instance, Linda T. was referred by a friend to a Smith Barney broker in New York and inherited a Fidelity relationship through a stock option plan, Alison N. took over management of a bond and bond fund portfolio with a New York CFP from her father, and John Y. mentioned still having an account with an AG Edwards broker
  • But none of the four had allegiance to any specific financial advisors; none saw anyone as their financial quarterback. This stands in sharp contrast to the perception of many that all consumer households have found financial advisors
  • Because of their common ages, several had entered the market around 2000, causing some investment challenges, and all had been (or continue to be) disappointed in some way by the industry. For instance, Alison N. recounted the story of meeting her father’s CFP in 2000, where he told her that, “he could move her father’s bond portfolio into stocks and earn her at least 10% per year, even while she was explaining that this was her house down payment fund and her aging father’s nursing home fund.” The CFP subsequently purchased Intel and JDS Uniphase, and the portfolio plummeted 70%, with Alison N. calling it, “a horrifying out-of-control experience.” Proving that behavioral finance is critically important, she added that, even after losing 70% of her money, “I maintained my money with him for six more years, because I could not write it off.” John Y. added that, “I interviewed several financial planners, who ranged from a little to a lot biased.” Robert F. added, “I had a problem with an LPL broker.” All continue to be disappointed by the service of any remaining financial advisors in their lives. Linda T. said that, “my former Smith Barney guy only recommended stocks in his own portfolio,” and added, “I have not heard from my Northwestern Mutual agent in a year”
  • Several said that fit is important. For instance, Linda T. said that, “The Smith Barney guy was excited to take me on, but it did not work as a connection; it is about relationships and trust.” Utilizing the medical analogy which is her background, Alison N. added that, “credentials do not matter if your bed side manner is poor”
  • Several tested the discount brokers, but this also was not a positive experience, with three of the four recounting bad experiences in Fidelity branches. Robert F. said that, “I walked into the Fidelity Palo Alto, CA office, and I felt like I was dealing with a guy who could help me make a trade but not give me advice.” He also added that, “the Fidelity Larkspur office is also terrible.” Linda T. added that, “I asked a Fidelity rep to help me with some restricted stock but he never offered me any financial planning assistance”
  • All have subsequently chose more do-it yourself approaches. For instance, Linda T. said that, “I have sort of given up; I can move things online.” Robert F. added that, “I watch my accounts closely online; I love the Fidelity web site.” Alison N. added that, “I bought Personal Finance for Dummies, which gave me a list of questions to ask advisors. I took my money back from the CFP and put it in index funds and I am making pretty good money in my retirement account.” John Y. (who started a business twenty years earlier), said that, “I first started doing it myself by looking for health insurance for our firm.” He got involved in online trading early, and has, “never been comfortable handing over the reigns to a financial advisor”
  • Some of the panelists had learned conventional investing wisdom. Robert F. said that, “If I like a company, I buy the product,” adding that, “I think I am reasonably savvy regarding stocks in the medical field.” Others had retreated to perceived safer ground, with Alison N. saying that, “I feel safer now in mutual funds.” Robert F. added, “my friend said that ETFs were the way to go”
  • Others have seen accountants as a solution. For instance, Alison N. said that, her hospital offers, “Price Waterhouse Coopers guys who offer very comprehensive financial planning; the general two day session is $1,000 and then they will do a custom plan for you for $5,000”
  • Unlike their parents, many of the panelists were avoiding substantial debt. Robert F. said, “I do not want to take on debt; debt is to be avoided.” Recounting that he learned to be a penny pincher from his Norwegian grandfather, Robert F. had gone as far as enlisting in the Navy to avoid taking on debt for his education. Alison N. added that, “debt and margin scare me”
  • All find the investment business somewhat intimidating. For instance, Robert F. said that, “there is a fear factor in our generation; we are afraid.” And several made it clear that the industry does not have positive perceptions; Robert F. said that, “the industry has an image problem; I don’t trust anyone.” Asked what he saw in the audience, he humorously said, “vultures,” causing a laugh but also a lot of chatter afterwards
  • A couple of firms got positive plugs. For instance, Robert F., said, “I have warm feelings regarding TIAA-CREF”
  • All are still (amazingly) open to financial advisor relationships. For instance, Linda T. said that, “I am still doing my own financial planning and not feeling very good about it; I want an advisor; I know that I am missing things; if I were good at this, I’d be in the business.” Robert F. added that, “I am looking for fatherly advice, which I did not get from my academic father.” John Y. added, “I realize I just do not have enough time”
  • Three of the four said that they rarely receive marketing from financial advisors

The attendees enjoyed the opportunity to hear direct from consumers on the Ask the Consumers panel; Tif Joyce said that, “we all need to look to the end users to direct what we do.” Tiburon's Managing Principal Chip Roame agreed, saying that, "unlike consumer goods, the financial services industry has never had a productive consumer research orientation. The objective here is to remind us all that these are our clients and they have real life needs."

Tiburon CEO Summit XIII Ask the Advisors panelist Bill Barrett (CEO, Fiduciary Trust International of California, Fiduciary Trust International, Franklin Templeton Investments, Franklin Resources)

Ask the Advisors

With a similar goal to the Ask the Consumers panel, four leading financial advisors participated on the Ask the Advisors panel to allow attendees to better understand the businesses and decision-making criteria of financial advisors. Facilitated by Dennis Clark (CEO, Advisor Partners), the panelists included Bill Barrett (CEO, Fiduciary Trust International of California, Fiduciary Trust International, Franklin Templeton Investments, Franklin Resources), Pat McClain (Senior Financial Advisor, Hanson McClain), Alan Spiegelman (Wealth Management Advisor, Northwestern Mutual), & Jane Williams (CEO, Sand Hill Advisors, Boston Private Financial Holdings). The financial advisors were selected from various different backgrounds, including private banking, financial planning, insurance, and wealth management, to provide a wide range of perspectives. Furthermore, one of the panelists (Alan Spiegelman) essentially functions as a solo practitioner inside a big firm, personally managing $225 million with a six person team. The other three panelists function more as small-to-mid-size firms, with 16 - 36 employees and $1.3 - $1.5 billion assets under management. However, there was complete agreement that the investment advisory business is truly an exciting cottage industry (noted often by Tiburon research, unlike many sectors of the economy, there is no one firm or group of companies with significant market share). Amongst the key points made by the panelists were:

  • One of the panelists (Alan Spiegelman) essentially functions as a solo practitioner inside a big firm, personally managing $225 million with a six person team. The other three panelists function more as small-to-mid-size firms, with 16 - 36 employees and $1.3 - $1.5 billion assets under management
  • While all four panelist serve mostly individual clients, with institutional clients making up one-third or less of their client bases, average client sizes varied widely, ranging from $400,000 (Hanson McClain) to $11.1 million (Fiduciary Trust International)
  • At different levels, all four said that they really position themselves as wealth managers. Two of the four (Hanson McClain & Alan Spiegelman) primarily rely on mutual funds and exchange traded funds, while Fiduciary Trust utilizes mostly individual stocks & bonds (85%) and Sand Hill Advisors more evenly allocates its assets (55% mutual funds & exchange traded funds)
  • The panelists all market to different niches in different ways. Specifically, Sand Hill Advisors focuses on, “women and wealth in transition,” Hanson McClain targets, “telephone company retirees,” Fiduciary Trust focuses mostly on, “going where the wealthy people are (like non-profit boards) and seeking new business from estate & trust attorneys as well as small & medium-size tax firms that serve high-net-worth families," and Alan Spiegelman serves, “primarily high net worth retirees in the North Bay area.” The group spent a few minutes listening to Jane who explained that divorced and widowed women control a growing amount of investable assets.” Similarly, Pat also explained his strategy as, “ targeting a mature and downsizing industry with a defined benefit plan that allowed a lump sum option,” again pointing to money in motion
  • In reflecting on the day’s earlier consumer panel, Pat commented that, “it is sad that we can not afford to help many of the people that need us”
  • When asked, “What keeps you awake at night?”, their answers ranged from hiring & retaining talented staff to concerns about unfair practices of competitors. Pat said that Hanson McClain has, “12 or 13 financial advisors that are all on salaries", acknowledging that he "must allow his firm to grow to offer these people opportunities.” He also added that the firm, “has opened five additional offices and taught other firms to use its marketing programs, raising an incremental $3 billion of assets.” Jane said, “hiring & retaining staff is difficult; others will offer big upfront bonuses.” Bill said, “I worry about the competition; I am not sure when they are calling my clients and I am not sure what false things they are telling them,” recollecting the “vultures” comment made on the earlier consumer panel
  • All had different succession planning strategies. For instance, Jane Williams (Sand Hill Advisors) has already sold her business to Boston Private Financial Holdings and Bill Barrett is now an employee of a large publicly-traded firm (Franklin Resources). On the other side, Pat said that his firm has recently started a stock ownership plan

Tiburon CEO Summit attendees valued the opportunity to listen to these successful financial advisors discuss their businesses. Dennis Clark (CEO, Advisor Partners) predicted that, "the market will continue to bifurcate with some financial advisors being more client-centric, allowing for a better accommodation of lifestyle needs, while others will be more business focused and will continue to grow share." Tiburon's Managing Principal Chip Roame agreed, saying that, "there is an inaccurate message going around that small financial advisors' existing client bases are under threat; this simply is not supported. They may not grow as fast as others but I am not sure that their client bases are under any threat."

CEO Summit XIII's panel facilitator Tim Armour (Managing Director, Sales & Marketing, Morningstar)

Ask the Distributors

In keeping with the Tiburon CEO Summit tradition of emphasizing the need to listen carefully to one's clients and prospective clients, the Tiburon CEO Summit Ask the Distributors panel is the third part of this series. For many Tiburon clients (e.g., investment, insurance, & technology firms), understanding the workings of distribution firms is crucial to their firm's success in gaining access to an organization's network of financial advisors. Wirehouses such as Merrill Lynch, independent broker/dealers such as LPL Financial Services, and custodians such as The Charles Schwab Corporation can account for 50% or more of financial product companies' sales. Tiburon's Ask the Distributors panel, facilitated by Tim Armour (Managing Director, Sales & Marketing, Morningstar), allowed these distribution organizations to discuss their needs from investment management firms and other product providers through questions & answers. Five major distribution firms provided insights on how they serve financial advisors and how they would be receptive to hearing from the product manufacturers in the financial services business. Panelists included Keith Hartstein (CEO, John Hancock Funds, John Hancock Financial Services, Manulife Financial), John Iachello (Chief Operating Officer, Pershing Advisor Solutions, Pershing, The Bank of New York Mellon Corporation), Stephen Langlois (Executive Vice President, Research & Financial Planning, LPL Financial Services), John Rooney (Managing Principal, Commonwealth Financial Network), and Chris Wolfe (Chief Investment Officer, Merrill Lynch Private Banking & Investment Group, Merrill Lynch). The panelists represented a huge source of assets in the market, including 94,200 financial advisors and $907 billion assets under administration. Amongst their key points were:

  • Tim Armour started the conversation by asking the group what distributors are doing to capture the frequently discussed IRA rollover market. Keith Hartstein said his firm “is working across business units to get better at this, trying to earlier identify departing employees and get them to the right silos.” Chris Wolfe said that, “Merrill Lynch has very specific initiatives around this, dealing with transition events for employees”
  • The conversation then shifted to financial advisors’ product needs. Lower cost mutual funds, access to closed separately managed account strategies, retirement income planning vehicles, and better technology were all expressed as needs. Many said that mutual funds are serving their financial advisors quite well, with John Rooney summarizing it as “many financial advisors shifted to broader wealth manager roles after the market correction”, but Chris Wolfe said that in Merrill Lynch’s upscale private banking business, “we have a heavier concentration in separately managed accounts (about 45% of their $175 billion in assets under management)”
  • Both Stephen Langlois and John Rooney emphatically made the observation that what financial advisors are looking for are solutions - solutions for their business practices and solutions for their clients' wealth management needs. All of the panelist agreed that, as platforms and custodians, they are in a unique position to offer these solutions because they have the capital and collective clientele to make such solutions available
  • Most panelists said that access would be granted to manufacturers with innovative product offerings that address financial advisor needs’, and/or those which pay to be on platforms or by sponsoring conferences. For instance, John Iachello said that, he sees his firm as “a product agnostic supermarket; if it is operationally feasible, and the firm will not generate reputational risk for Pershing, we will add it”
  • A key theme for the panel was to pick up on a comment by Tiburon’s managing principal, and address the balance of power between distributors and manufacturers. All noted the current power of distributors, including the ability to drive down prices for manufactured products on their platforms. Tim Armour recollected his days running Stein Roe funds, when he thought 25 basis points was a stiff price to pay. Stephen Langlois noted that LPL’s real value proposition is its, “research, services, & training," and that it is "now distributing through independent advisors, banks, and its unique clearing model,” increasing its power as a distributor. Keith Hartstein agreed, saying that, “he sees John Hancock as a distribution powerhouse, utilizing 65 money managers and selling through 250 wholesalers, sending 62% of its assets to third-party managers.” But there also seemed to be a feeling that the industry is reaching a point of equilibrium, as Chris Wolfe noted that, “manufacturers are starting to push back now”
  • Finally, Tim Armour asked the panelists to make a bold prediction for a year or two out. Keith Hartstein emphasized the “need for solutions for boomers transitioning from the accumulation phase to the distribution phase.” He noted that, “insurance companies are particularly well-suited to deliver these solutions.” Keith also informed the audience that, “John Hancock is the largest owner of timberland in the world, and is analyzing ways to package that as an investment for their clients.” Stephen Langlois emphasized the need “to support financial advisor growth, not only in investment planning, but in administrative tasks.” He noted that, “the demand for advice is starting to outstrip the supply of quality financial advisors.” Chris Wolfe noted that, “the era of enabling choice is over. It is time to think more about how to package and integrate all these choices in ways that make better sense to investors. For example, how many index ETFs do we really need?” John Rooney echoed Stephen Langlois’ comments about supporting business planning for financial advisors, saying the industry needs to “go way beyond just picking investments.” And John Iachello predicted that, “someone will break the back of the cost structure of the multi-custodian business model”

Ask the Distributors Panelist Stephen Langlois (Executive Vice President, Research & Financial Planning, LPL Financial Services)

The panel added perfectly to the Tiburon CEO Summit's agenda of focusing the CEO-level attendees on client needs. Tim Armour (Managing Director, Sales & Marketing, Morningstar) summarized the panel saying that, "these guys know what financial advisors want; the product manufacturers need to see them as their clients too." Tiburon's Managing Principal Chip Roame agreed saying that, "the Ask the Distributors panel adds perfectly to the goal of getting all Tiburon CEO-level clients to see that this industry has three levels of clients - the end clients themselves, their financial advisors, and the firms with which these financial advisors affiliate."

Break-Out Sessions

Six break-out sessions were held at the recently completed Tiburon CEO Summit XIII, allowing attendees to informally debate trends and business strategies. Each session included no more than thirty-five attendees, all CEO-level executives, promoting frank discussions on a wide variety of topics. Leading financial industry executives, including Tim Armour (Managing Director, Morningstar), Dennis Clark (CEO, Advisor Partners), Tif Joyce (President, Joyce Financial Management), Tom Lydon (President, Global Trends Investments), and Skip Schweiss (Executive Vice President, Fiserv Investment Support Services, Fiserv), facilitated the break-out sessions, ensuring that the discussions remained lively and focused on high-level topics.

Retirement Income Planning: Mixing Traditional Investment Products with New Guaranteed Income (Insurance) Products

Few topics are being addressed as frequently as the perceived retirement income challenge or savings crisis faced by two-thirds (or more) of the 76 million baby boomers as they near retirement. So what are the solutions? For a decade, annuities have been the most popular or obvious solution. Although they were outgrown substantially by mutual funds in the last decade, will the next decade be the era of annuities? This session was designed to allow participants to discuss retirement income planning solutions, including annuities, reverse mortgages, and the products likely in many firms' pipelines.

Tif Joyce (President, Joyce Financial Management) started the discussion by sharing his experience from helping clients facing retirement issues. “The key is to spend the time to create accurate expense and cash flow assumptions“, he said. “Unless they are sound, the retirement plan will not likely be effective and the products will not matter.” Some of the other key insights of the session included:

  • Mr. Joyce went on to express genuine doubt as to whether annuities will be a significant part of the retirement planning solution in the next several decades, “given issues with pricing and the need to give up control of the assets.” Kurt Brouwer (CEO, Brouwer & Janachowski) agreed and noted that, “annuities have to overcome past financial advisor concerns about seemingly hidden fees and the difficulty of backing out”
  • Chuck Robinson (Senior Vice President, Investment Products & Services, Northwestern Mutual) disagreed, citing, “the significant benefits of providing steady and guaranteed income to investors, especially those who have not saved enough and could not easily weather a shock to their portfolios early in retirement. Annuities offer a great opportunity to pool risks so that those who live longer will be able to live comfortably,” he said
  • Aside from annuities, Tiburon CEO Summit XIII provided a recent example of the increased focus on this product area, as attendees Scott Hanson & Pat McClain (Co-CEOs, Hanson McClain) announced the $50 million sale of their reverse mortgage company Liberty Reverse Mortgage to Genworth Financial, represented at Tiburon CEO Summit XIII by Mike Fraizer (CEO, Genworth Financial) & Ron Cordes (Chairman, Asset Market Investment Services, Genworth Financial Asset Management, Genworth Financial)
  • Ben Cukier (Partner, FT Ventures), said that he, “feels that we are in for a period of innovation because the need to deal effectively with longevity risk with an aging and healthier population is significant. Solutions could include new structured products and income payout products that may or may not have any insurance component”
  • Thomas Sponholtz (CEO, Rex & Company) offered up one of those innovations by explaining his firm’s unique strategy to purchase the appreciation in consumers homes while providing liquidity and allowing them to remain in their residences

Thomas Sponholtz (CEO, Rex & Company) makes a point while Tiburon CEO Summit Planning Committee member Tim Armour (Managing Director, Morningstar) looks on during a break-out session at Tiburon CEO Summit XIII

Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors) closed the session by summarizing Tiburon’s view that, “the pending liquefaction and retirement income challenge will make this a great time to be a financial advisor, at least for the next two decades. But the industry needs to innovate in this area over the next two decades as baby boomers retire”

Gatekeepers: The Implications of the Market Becoming More Centralized, Institutionalized, & Controlled by Gatekeepers

With the emergence of mutual fund supermarkets, research services like Morningstar and Litman Gregory, asset allocation funds, sub-advised funds, mutual fund wrap account programs, turnkey asset management programs, separately managed account programs, and multiple style portfolios, an increasing share of investment decisions are becoming concentrated in the hands of home office research-oriented executives. This session was designed to allow participants to discuss the impact that this centralization (or institutionalization) trend is having on investment product manufacturers.

Tim Armour (Managing Director, Strategic Relationship & Business Development, Morningstar) started the discussion by citing FRC research about the decline in financial advisors’ role in actual mutual fund selection, saying that, “in 1996, nearly 80% of mutual fund selection was done by financial advisors but by 2010, the estimate is that just 25% will be controlled by these same financial advisors.” Participants generally agreed with the trend and felt that mutual fund selection is essentially centrally controlled in a number of distribution platforms already. Some of the other key take-aways of the session included:

  • The group discussed ways to be effective in securing distribution in gatekeeper-controlled channels. While there was agreement that good investment performance was a minimum requirement, it would not be enough by itself. Craig Cloyed (President, Calvert Distributors, Calvert, Unifi Mutual Holding Company) suggested that, “a key additional element will be the selection and retention of high quality headquarters-focused national accounts representatives.” This observation was met with broad agreement by all as a key element of success. With the growth of gatekeeping, such people are in especially high demand
  • The group agreed that only the best mutual funds or strategies will get on these institutionally-controlled platforms, meaning that 80% of mutual funds will face challenges. Jim Ross (President, Intermediary Business, State Street Global Advisors, State Street Corporation) observed that, “patience on these platforms is limited in times of waning performance and delisting happens more quickly.” But Mr. Ross also added that, “relative to mutual funds and separately managed accounts, ETFs have experienced a much easier time securing new distribution, given the rising level of interest in such products.” Mike Byrum (President, Rydex Investments, Security Benefit Group) agreed, saying that, “a key in dealing with controlled channels is to be successful in explaining unique attributes of products”
  • Keith Hartstein (CEO, John Hancock Funds, John Hancock Financial Services, Manulife Financial) observed that retail investors’ self-destructive behavior identified earlier in the day by Don Phillips (Managing Director, Corporate Strategy, Research, & Corporate Communications, Morningstar) has been one of the drivers of the growth in gate keeping, because, in many cases, these results have been no better in the advised and institutional channels. As a result, the need is greater for well constructed portfolios and the trend is likely to grow. Sarah McKenzie (Senior Vice President, Brokerage & Managed Products, Ameriprise Financial) agreed, citing “the desire to move rep-controlled decision making over to central-control for compliance and quality control reasons”
  • This centrally controlled approach is descending upon the hedge fund world as well. Amit Choudhury (Managing Principal, Pinnacle Partners) described how major money center banks are putting hedge fund clients through a more rigorous due diligence process focused on capacity, access, and process

Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors) closed the session by saying, that “power is shifting to the gatekeepers; this will have profound impact on how investment management firms distribute their products. Manufacturers will need to be more creative in wholesaling and marketing efforts that adapt to the new institutionalization of the investments market".

Separately Managed Accounts: Are they Really More Tax-Efficient, More Customized, Less Expensive, or Otherwise Better than Mutual Funds?

Few products have had such early buzz as separately managed account programs and their newer cousins multiple style portfolio programs and unified managed accounts. But do separately managed accounts actually provide any benefits beyond those afforded by investing in mutual funds? This session was designed to allow participants to discuss the importance and legitimacy of often repeated claims such as tax-efficiency, customization, and lower expenses.

Skip Schweiss (Executive Vice President, Client Services Group, Fiserv Investment Support Services, Fiserv) started the discussion by referencing the Tiburon Strategic Advisors research report regarding separately managed accounts, stating that, “it is over 800 pages and rich with data and plenty of insights to question conventional wisdom.” Some of the key take-aways of the session included:

  • The group seemed to reach consensus that separately managed account programs have genuine momentum in the financial press but that several viable alternatives may provide better solutions for many financial advisors and their clients. Often the leading separately managed account market participants spin their growth by highlighting share of flows into fee-accounts rather than the share of client assets, which is still below 20%. Tif Joyce (President, Joyce Financial Management) remarked that, “the impression created in the press is that packaged fee-accounts are huge, when 84% of wirehouse client assets were still sold with commissions”
  • The group debated the lack of (and need for) customization and tax planning in separately managed accounts. Richard Steiny (President, Asset Mark Investment Services, Genworth Financial Asset Management, Genworth Financial) related that, “the active customization that Asset Mark brings to investors with concentrated portfolios is significant, offering diversification while balancing the economic risks of concentrated portfolios”
  • On the product front, Mr. Steiny mentioned that, “his firm is having great success with multiple style portfolios.” He attributed the success to greater efficiency and back-office simplicity and noted that his firm’s collaboration with Parametric provided, “a powerful tax overlay to optimize portfolio decisions”
  • On the technology side, Mike Gianoni (Executive Vice President, Investment Services Division, Check Free) said that, “the significant capital invested in its Check Free APL system has resulted in a significantly more efficient and error-free transaction experience”
  • There was nearly unanimous agreement among the participants that separately managed accounts are most appropriate for accounts $5 million and above

Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors) closed the session by saying that, “all is slowly sorting out in the fee-accounts market; unified managed accounts are the product that should have existed all along. Separately managed accounts and mutual funds both play useful purposes in client portfolios”

Hedge Funds & Financial Advisors: Why are Financial Advisors Fascinated by Hedge Funds When Such a Small Share of their Clients Can and Do Own them?

Hedge funds are gathering amazing amounts of money, and outgrowing other fast growing Investment products, including exchange traded funds and separately managed accounts. But when one asks nearly any group of financial advisors, few (if any) own hedge funds, have sold hedge funds, or have put hedge funds in their clients' portfolios. What is the disconnect? This session was designed to create an open dialog about both why financial advisors have been slow to adopt a product that is being widely adopted in the institutional markets, as well as why media representatives and conference speakers insist on discussing hedge funds and financial advisors in the same breadth, implying that the usage is significant.

Attendees discuss industry trends during break-out sessions at Tiburon CEO Summit XIII

Skip Schweiss (Executive Vice President, Client Services Group, Fiserv Investment Support Services, Fiserv) started the discussion by asking Jeff Lancaster (Principal, Bingham, Osborn, & Scarborough, Boston Private Financial Holdings) for his thoughts on hedge funds. Jeff said that his firm, “does not have the staff to do proper due diligence on hedge funds.” He feels that, “if he could get his clients into the top five funds, he would consider it, but those funds are not accessible to most investors.” Other key points made in the session included:
  • Jane Williams (CEO, Sand Hill Advisors, Boston Private Financial Holdings) said that, “she uses primarily hedge fund-of-funds so there is a professional manager responsible for the manager search, due diligence, and monitoring functions.” But she also added that, “Sand Hill is moving toward lower cost investment vehicles, using more index products for its clients, and few clients ask about hedge funds”
  • Chris Wolfe (Chief Investment Officer, Private Banking & Investment Group, Global Wealth Management, Merrill Lynch) said that, “only Merrill’s top 300 reps use hedge funds. The rest (approximately 14,000 reps) use hedge fund-of-funds vehicles”
  • John Watts (Chairman Emeritus, Fischer, Francis, Trees, & Watts, BNP Paribas Asset Management, BNP Paribas), said that, “almost all money in hedge funds is from institutional investors like public and private pensions, endowments, etc.”
  • David Perkins (President, Hatteras Investment Partners), who works with endowment funds, selecting alternative investments, said that, “the good managers are closed to new money, and don’t bother to report their results to the scorekeepers; they don’t have to, since they have plenty of money coming in”. This raised the issue of the accuracy of hedge industry-wide performance numbers. If reporting is optional, and top managers don’t report, and bottom managers don’t report, and you have survivor bias issues, how relevant are publicly available performance numbers? Amit Choudhury (Managing Principal, Pinnacle Partners), said that, “hedge fund numbers, such as the number of funds, performance, etc. are very difficult to pin down. Published numbers vary and are almost always inaccurate”
  • Mr. Perkins asked for impressions of reasonable fees for hedge funds-of-funds. Mr. Choudhury responded that, “some of these managers have returned 20% or more per year for twenty years; fees are irrelevant at those levels”
  • Karl Mills (President, Jurika, Mills, & Keifer) has his own mutual fund and hedge fund. He feels that, “being short is a lot harder than being long,” which the group agreed on

Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors) closed the session by saying that, for an industry with 10,000 funds and $1.9 trillion in assets, hedge funds are still a very opaque world. One has to perform careful due diligence on individual managers, and not rely much on published industry figures. The top handful of managers have most of the money and can charge what they want. Contrary to media articles, financial advisors do not seem to be using hedge funds much yet; it is mainly an institutional sale at this point. Time will tell”

RIAs: Is the Market Really Growing in Numbers? If so... Where are they Coming from & Where are they Going?

There is a perception that the registered investment advisor (RIA) market is growing fast in its number of advisors. If so, where are they coming from? Is there a substantial number of break-away brokers from the wirehouses, insurance agents from the captive insurance firms, or bank trust officers from the banks? Or is the flow really made up of existing independent reps registering their own RIAs and/or CPA firms adding such capabilities? This session was designed to allow participants to discuss their understandings of where RIAs are coming from and with what firms (custodians, broker/dealers, or otherwise) they are then working.

Tom Lydon (President, Global Trends Investments) started the discussion by asking Tiburon Managing Principal Chip Roame to explain his challenge to widely circulated industry data. Mr. Roame said that the number may not be growing as much as the more important fact that the assets managed by RIAs are growing and growing rapidly. "Schwab reports that it is working with over 5,000 advisors - the same number they were working with over ten years ago. During the same time period, financial advisor assets have grown more than 500%."

  • Dennis Clark (CEO, Advisor Partners), a long-time Schwab Institutional executive, noted that Schwab and other large custodians have pared the bottom 20% of their financial advisors as a regular practice, leading to little change in the 5,000 number. Some of the other key take-aways of the session included:
  • The group debated why the number of RIAs (about 20,000) is so low relative to the hype and the opportunity. Everyone agreed that RIAs are enjoying a higher level of client satisfaction and they are growing at a faster rate than their competition at the wirehouses. The consensus though was that the wirehouses, regional broker/dealers, and independent broker/dealers have increasingly adopted the RIA model, stemming the flow of personnel. For example, all of the major broker/dealers now offer fee-based advisory services, open architecture products, separately managed accounts, and exchange traded fund wrap accounts, all of which begin to blur the line between RIA and traditional wirehouse broker offerings
  • The other observation made by the group was the difficulty faced by successful brokers considering going independent (as well as the substantial upfront fees they can collect by moving from one firm to another). Many brokers are ill equipped to manage businesses and see the prospect of doing so to be daunting. In addition, the decision seems to be a wash in terms of ultimate compensation as the successful brokers are garnering better deals than mid and low performing brokers. The group acknowledged that the decision for successful brokers to leave a wirehouse and go independent is more an emotional decision verses and economic one
  • Stephen Langlois (Executive Vice President, Research & Financial Planning, LPL Financial Services) questioned, “the drivers behind the growth of registered investment advisors, the differences between the new registered investment advisors and the existing ones, the evolution of their needs vis-a-vis independent broker/dealers, and the most significant differences between registered investment advisors and independent reps
  • John Rooney (Managing Principal, Commonwealth Financial Network), said that, “while his firm is constructively paranoid about any potential trend of independent reps going fee-only, Commonwealth has not been seeing it in its systems; in the past five years, we have only had two or three financial advisors relinquish their securities licenses to go registered investment advisor only.” He added that, “my hunch is that the new RIAs are predominately big wirehouse teams and not existing independent reps. Maybe it is a self-fulfilling thing with me though; you do not join Commonwealth unless you see significant value in outsourcing activities like securities research and reporting, and once you are here, you would be crazy to reinvent those things on your own”

Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors) closed the session by saying that, "the fee-only financial advisor market is fascinating, but quite confusing and filled with inaccurate data. For instance, if Schwab has streamlined the bottom 20% of its clients for each of the past ten years, then that’s 10,000 RIAs out there rejected by Schwab; where did they go? Are they all independent reps today or is this data just a little funny?"

Tiburon CEO Summit Planning Committee member Dennis Clark (CEO, Advisor Partners) and Dave Petersen (President, Financial Services Advisory) discuss industry trends between break-out sessions at Tiburon CEO Summit XIII

Financial Advisor Mergers & Acquisitions: is there Finally Some Traction?

The consolidation of the independent financial advisor market has been a topic of great speculation for nearly a decade. Some predicted that it would have happened by now. It hasn't. But there are some signs of life; firms like National Financial Partners, Focus Financial Partners, Wealth Trust, and Fiduciary Network are gaining some publicity and executing some initial transactions. Will the independent financial advisor market be substantially consolidated? This session was designed to create an open dialog about these new models, their learnings from prior (failed) models, and their likelihood of success.

Tom Lydon (President, Global Trends Investments) started the discussion on a somber note by calling on Dave Petersen (President, Financial Services Advisory) to explain his specific situation. Dave, who runs a successful financial advisory firm, suffered a major heart attack earlier this year and was incapacitated long enough to force him to consider the consequences if he did not fully recover - which, of course, he did. Dave’s three suggestions were to start delegating to your team, to develop a buy-sell agreement today, and to maintain some realism regarding valuation. Some of the other key take-aways of the session included:

  • John Iachello (Chief Operating Officer, Pershing Advisor Solutions, Pershing, The Bank of New York Mellon Corporation) took the position that, “the roll up firms like Focus Financial Partners, which do not provide collective buying power or additional value, will ultimately fail,” saying that, “they are simply a vestige of a recently bygone time where you could securitize a ham sandwich and they actually add nothing to the businesses they buy”
  • The discussion then led to an acknowledgement that many financial advisors are selling to insiders at lower prices to insure that the founders’ relationships are not compromised by new outside owners. However, the number of advisory firms that can hand over their firms to internal employees is complicated by two factors - one is that the second generation financial advisors are hard pressed to pay market rate for the ownership and second, many new financial advisors are not coming into the business because the entry level is difficult and low paying relative to other career choices
  • The group unanimously agreed that the decision to sell or not to sell to outside bidders is an emotional one. However, the need to consider such issues is becoming more commonplace due to the demographics of the older baby boomer owners. Many financial advisors may not be well served to follow what was termed a policy of patience when thinking about a succession plan
  • John Rooney (Managing Principal, Commonwealth Financial Network) said that, “Commonwealth has not seen a single financial advisor practice sold to an aggregator like National Financial Partners, while dozens change hands privately.” He went on to add that, “I do not think the aggregator firms like National Financial Partners will age gracefully – from the outside looking in, all these practices are so unique and relationship driven, I’m skeptical that they are sustainable as the original principals withdraw from the operations. In other words, its one thing for an advisor to hand select a local successor that shares his values and expertise, and quite another to sell to an out of state entity that subsequently comes in and realigns the existing practice with their systems. So my suspicion is that they are buying practices at their peak, and will be lucky to retain the assets under management for long. I think that National Financial Partners has a better chance of success with the benefits practices that they are buying that the securities practices this is an important distinction that I am not sure many recognize”

Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors) closed the session by saying that, "the financial advisor mergers & acquisitions market is a very small market compared to the 120,000+ independent financial advisory firms. If there is a significant succession trend and an advisor’s business life is around twenty years, then 6,000 firms should have changed hands last year. National Financial Partners has been the leader, and acquired about 200 firms".


Tiburon CEO Summit XII: April 18-19, 2007

Tiburon CEO Summit XII was held April 18-19, 2007 in San Francisco, CA. The Summit started at 7:45am on Wednesday, April 18, included a networking dinner that evening in Tiburon, & concluded at 2:00pm on Thursday, April 19. Almost 100 senior industry executives & media representatives took two days out of their busy schedules to participate. Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors), John DesPrez (CEO, John Hancock Financial Services, Manulife Financial), Ed Haldeman (CEO, Putnam Investments, Marsh & McLennan), Steve Lockshin (CEO, Lydian Wealth Management, Lydian Trust Company), Jim Riepe (Retired Vice Chairman & Senior Advisor, T. Rowe Price Group), & Paul Stevens (President & CEO, Investment Company Institute) made general session presentations. Three general session panel discussions included a consumers panel, an advisors panel, & a distributors panel.

Attendees at Tiburon CEO Summit XII held April 18-19, 2007 in San Francisco, CA

Attendees

Tiburon CEO Summit XII had 90 Tiburon client attendees, including:

  • Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors)
  • Gurinder Ahluwalia (President, Genworth Financial Asset Management, Genworth Financial)
  • Julie Allecta (Partner, Paul, Hastings, Janofsky, & Walker)
  • Mike Apker (Chief Operating Officer, Envestnet Asset Management)
  • Andy Arenberg (Managing Director, Barclays Global Investors, Barclays)
  • Tim Armour (Managing Director, Strategic Relationships & Business Development, Morningstar)
  • Peter Bain (Senior Executive Vice President, US Asset Management, Legg Mason)
  • Chuck Baldiswieler (Group Managing Director, TCW Advisor Group & Private Client Services, Trust Company of the West (TCW), Societe Generale)
  • Bill Barrett (CEO, Fiduciary Trust International of California, Fiduciary Trust International, Franklin Templeton Investments)
  • Andy Baugh (CEO, Niemann Capital Management)
  • Bob Bingham (Partner, Bingham, Osborn, & Scarborough, Boston Private Financial Holdings)
  • Chris Boruff (President, Advisor Business, Morningstar)
  • John Bowen (CEO, CEG Worldwide)
  • Steve Burnett (Principal, Hanson McClain)
  • Dan Byrne (Senior Vice President, Products & Technology, M Financial Group)
  • Eric Byunn (Partner, FT Ventures)
  • John Cammack (Head of Third-Party Distribution, T. Rowe Price Group)
  • Joe Canavan (CEO, Assante Corporation, CI Financial)
  • Amit Choudhury (Managing Principal, Pinnacle Partners)
  • Dennis Clark (CEO, Advisor Partners)
  • John Clendening (Executive Vice President, Schwab Investor Services, The Charles Schwab Corporation)
  • Steve Cohen (Managing Director, ProFund Advisors)
  • Ron Cordes (Chairman, Asset Mark Investment Services, Genworth Financial Asset Management, Genworth Financial)
  • Allison Couch (CEO, The Financial Services Network (FSN))
  • Ben Cukier (Partner, FT Ventures)
  • Jeff Cusack (Managing Director, Sales & Marketing, Rex & Company)
  • John DesPrez (CEO, John Hancock Financial Services, Manulife Financial)
  • Mike DiGirolamo (Managing Director, Investment Advisors Division, Raymond James Financial Services, Raymond James)
  • Jeffrey Dunham (CEO, Dunham & Associates Investment Counsel)
  • Bill Dwyer (President, LPL Independent Advisor Services, LPL Financial Services)
  • Martuza Ferdous (President, Epluribus, Open Finance Network)
  • Ken Fisher (CEO, Fisher Investments)
  • Jon Foster (CEO, E*Trade Wealth Management, E*Trade Financial)
  • Mike Gianoni (Executive Vice President, Investment Services Division, Check Free)
  • Keith Gregg (Executive Vice President, Sales, Dunham & Associates Investment Counsel)
  • John Hailer (CEO, CDC IXIS Asset Management Advisors Group, Banque Populaire Group & Caisse D'Epargne Group)
  • Ed Haldeman (CEO, Putnam Investments, Marsh & McLennan)
  • Bill Harris (Chairman, My Vest Corporation)
  • David Hearth (Partner, Paul, Hastings, Janofsky, & Walker)
  • Bob Herrmann (CEO, Loring Ward Group)
  • Steve Hohenrieder (Partner, Think Wealth Management, Think Equity Partners, Panmure Gordon & Company)
  • Tao Huang (Chief Operating Officer, Morningstar)
  • John Iachello (Chief Operating Officer, Pershing Advisor Solutions, Pershing, The Bank of New York Mellon Corporation)
  • Bryce James (CEO, Smart Portfolios)
  • Tif Joyce (President, Joyce Financial Management)
  • Jeff Lancaster (Managing Principal, Bingham, Osborn, & Scarborough, Boston Private Financial Holdings)
  • Greg Leekley (CEO, Phoenix Bay Partners, Open Finance Network)
  • Chuck Lewis (CEO, My Vest Corporation)
  • Steve Lockshin (CEO, Lydian Wealth Management, Lydian Trust Company)
  • Art Lutschaunig (President, Morningstar Investment Services, Morningstar)
  • Tom Lydon (President, Global Trends Investments)
  • Kevin Malone (President, Greenrock Research)
  • Jeff Margolis (Senior Managing Director, Asset Management Business Development, TIAA-CREF)
  • Scott McCartan (CEO, Millennium Trust Company)
  • Pat McClain (Senior Financial Advisor, Hanson McClain)
  • Randy Merk (Executive Vice President, Schwab Financial Products, The Charles Schwab Corporation)
  • Kirk Michie (Managing Director, Lenox Advisors)
  • Karl Mills (President, Jurika, Mills, & Keifer)
  • Keith Mitchell (CEO, Mitchell Advisers)
  • Mitch Nichter (Partner, Paul, Hastings, Janofsky, & Walker)
  • Mike Niedermeyer (Executive Vice President, Asset Management, Wells Fargo Bank)
  • Henry Orvin (Chief Distribution Officer, Index IQ)
  • Purna Pareek (CEO, Advice America)
  • Jon Parker (President, Western Region, Boston Private Financial Holdings)
  • Stuart Parker (Executive Vice President, Jennison Associates, Prudential Financial)
  • Adam Patti (CEO, Index IQ)
  • Mike Perry (Executive Vice President, AIG Valic, American International Group (AIG)
  • Govinda Quish (Partner, Agile Group)
  • Marty Ratner (Chief Financial Officer, Niemann Capital Management)
  • Alan Reid (CEO, Forward Management)
  • Brian Reid (Chief Economist, Investment Company Institute)
  • Jim Riepe (Retired Vice Chairman & Senior Advisor, T. Rowe Price Group)
  • Neal Ringquist (President, Advisor Software)
  • Chuck Robinson (Senior Vice President, Investment Products & Services, Northwestern Mutual)
  • Jeff Roush (Executive Vice President, Strategy & Corporate Development, Agile Group)
  • Michael Sapir (CEO, ProFund Advisors)
  • Catherine Saunders (Managing Director, West Region, Putnam Retail Management, Putnam Investments, Marsh & McLennan)
  • Paul Schaeffer (Managing Director, SEI Investments)
  • Skip Schweiss (Executive Vice President, Fiserv Investment Support Services, Fiserv)
  • David Smilow (Chairman, Jefferson National Financial, Inviva Securities Corporation)
  • David Smith (Group Publisher, Financial Advisor Magazine, Charter Financial Publishing Network)
  • Alan Spiegelman (Wealth Management Advisor, Northwestern Mutual)
  • Greg Stark (Managing Director, US Individual Investor Services, Russell Investment Group, Northwestern Mutual)
  • Paul Stevens (CEO, Investment Company Institute)
  • Nick Stuller (President, Discovery Database, Financial Information Group)
  • Frank Trotter (President, Ever Bank Direct, Ever Bank Financial)
  • John Tyers (Senior Managing Director, Broker/Dealer Clearing & Investment Advisor Services, The Bear Stearns Companies)
  • Enrique Vasquez (President, Personal Advisor Network, Genworth Financial)
  • Gib Watson (CEO, Prima Capital Management, Prima Capital Holding)
  • John Watts (Vice Chairman, BNP Paribas Asset Management, BNP Paribas)

Media Representatives

Tiburon CEO Summit XII had five Tiburon select media attendees, including:

  • Fred Gabriel (Executive Editor, Investment News, Crain Communications)
  • Janet Levaux (Managing Editor; Research; Highline Media; Summit Business Media; Wind Point Partners)
  • Evan Simonoff (Editor-in-Chief, Financial Advisor Magazine, Charter Financial Publishing Network)
  • Brooke Southall (Reporter, Investment News, Crain Communications)
  • John Wasik (Personal Finance Columnist, Bloomberg News, Bloomberg)

Also in attendance for Tiburon CEO Summit XII were Tiburon employees Martyn Collins (Business Manager) & Brian Cotter (Marketing Manager).

Tiburon Managing Principal Chip Roame kicks off Tiburon CEO Summit XII with the firm's signature Future of Advice presentation

Opening Keynote Presentation:
Chip Roame
(Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors)

Tiburon CEO Summit XII kicked off with a keynote presentation by Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors). Chip welcomed the attendees, gave an overview of Tiburon, addressed the state of the financial services industry, offered the group an organized list of current industry issues to consider, and introduced the five guest speakers.

Tiburon Strategic Advisors

In updating the group of clients on Tiburon's activities, Mr. Roame noted that:

  • Tiburon has positioned itself uniquely as a market research & strategy consulting firm; the firm's services include a series of research reports, conference speeches, market seminars, and market research & strategy consulting services, with the later two accounting for more than two-thirds of Tiburon's revenues
  • The firm has served almost 300 corporate clients (107 of which were represented at the CEO Summit) and completed almost 1,000 projects since its founding in 1998
  • The firm's knowledge base includes mutual funds distribution, separately managed account programs, alternative investments, wealth management services, insurance products, banking services, the fee-only financial advisor market, the CPA firm market, the family office market, and various international markets
  • The firm has published twenty-six research reports, sends free weekly research reports to 40,000 industry executives, manages 13 free financial advisor benchmarking tools, manages innovative executive programs, and is proud to be hosting Tiburon CEO Summit XII

Tiburon CEO Summit XII Welcome

After briefly addressing Tiburon, Mr. Roame gave a brief history of the CEO Summits, offered highlights regarding the attendee group, and thanked the CEO Summit Planning Committee members and CEO Summit XII Sponsors:

  • Tiburon's CEO Summits were created after Mr. Roame noted the lack of a CEO-level conference across traditional industry lines, and yet saw the consistency of issues being addressed by these same executives
  • Tiburon's CEO Summits evolved from a just a handful of industry friends meeting in Tiburon to 100+ CEO-level Tiburon clients attending two day conferences at the Ritz Carlton Hotel
  • Mr. Roame reiterated the two themes of all CEO Summits - Challenging Conventional Wisdom and Maintaining a Consumer Orientation
  • Mr. Roame thanked the CEO Summit Planning Committee members (Tim Armour, John Cammack, Dennis Clark, Tif Joyce, Tom Lydon, Kevin Malone, Kirk Michie, and David Smith) for their support in securing guest speakers, nominating attendees, and acting as facilitators
  • Mr. Roame also thanked Tiburon CEO Summit XII's sponsors (Fiserv, Genworth Financial, Morningstar, and Pershing), represented by Skip Schweiss, Ron Cordes, Chris Boruff, and John Iachello respectfully, whose financial support allowed the CEO Summit to move to the Ritz Carlton hotel and the attendees list to grow in size from 75 to 100+
  • Finally, Mr. Roame closed this section of his presentation by sharing some statistics about the attendees - 100% are Tiburon clients, 94% are C-level executives, 53% traveled from back east, and about one-third each represent products, distribution, and advisory companies

Attendees at Tiburon's CEO Summit XII held April 18-19, 2007 in San Francisco, CA

Ten Recent News Stories

After addressing the CEO Summit itself, Mr. Roame focused his comments on the key issues that would likely be addressed by the general session guest speakers, the topics that he hoped would be addressed by the general session panel discussions, and the questions that he suggested be debated in the break-out sessions. Specifically, Mr. Roame started by suggesting that at least ten all-encompassing news stories were worth discussing:

  • Retail Rules! The substantial attractiveness of retail banking and investments over corporate banking, underwriting, and international businesses is evidenced by the fact that Bank of America's market capitalization recently surpassed that of Citigroup
  • There has been a focus on eliminating (perceived) conflicts of interest, with two full-service brokerage firms exiting the investment management business. Mr. Roame challenged the group to consider Smith Barney & Merrill Lynch's strategies versus those of Morgan Stanley, Wachovia Corporation, & UBS
  • Mutual funds still dominate. Mr. Roame called attention to the data ($10+ trillion in mutual funds versus ETFs at $433 billion & separately managed accounts at $720 billion (collectively $1.1 trillion)). Mutual funds make up 40% of financial assets and are used by both of the fast growing independent financial advisor channels, so while other topics may get the press, Mr. Roame encouraged the group to maintain perspective
  • There is a continuing polarization of the competition. Three mutual fund companies broke $1 trillion assets under management with American Funds leading the way, with only 30 mutual funds! And American Funds manages 7 of the 12 largest mutual funds in the country
  • Mr. Roame questioned whether scandals continue; are 12b1 fees being used correctly
  • The Merrill Lynch rule was recently upended. Does this level the playing field? Will anything actually change? Mr. Roame was not so sure
  • Dozens of firms are entering into the hedge funds business - Citigroup purchased one-year old Old Lane; Morgan Stanley has acquired multiple hedge fund firms. Mr. Roame also noted the attendees at a recent SEI conference maintained an impressive focus on revenues, which they noted are increasingly driven by their lower asset hedge funds
  • The consolidation of back-office providers continues, including the new Bank of New York Mellon Corporation and the State Street Corporation combination with Investors Bank & Trust
  • RIAs are emerging as a powerhouse, with The Charles Schwab Corporation adding $100 billion in assets in 2006 just from RIAs
  • Industry mergers & acquisitions continue with Power Corporation of Canada's acquisition of Putnam Investments, City National Bank's acquisition of Lydian Wealth Management, Merrill Lynch's acquisition of First Republic, and Bank of America's acquisition of US Trust

State of the Financial Services Industry

Mr. Roame then discussed his expectations for the state of the financial services industry over the coming years, as consumers liquefy their assets but the competitive playing field gets more heated:

  • Consumer households have almost $20 trillion of investable assets and $50 trillion of total assets, with an important distinction between the high dollar average and the much lower median amounts
  • US households control almost three-quarters of all investable assets, more than half invested via financial advisors
  • Baby boomers are the key market for the next two decades for five reasons, including their retirement & pending liquefaction
  • Three-quarters of baby boomers over the age of 55 have less than $100,000 in investable assets and the consumer households savings rate continues to hit new all time lows
  • The median value of baby boomers' inheritance is only $48,000; very few received more than $100,000
  • Beyond the liquefaction, another opportunity is presented by the risk of baby boomers living too long, with estimates that more than half of 65 year olds will reach age 85 and over one-third will reach 90; amongst 65 year old couples; there is a 50% chance that one (or both) will live another twenty-five years
  • Captive advisors and retail banks continue to dominate control of consumer investable assets (31% and 27% respectfully) but independent advisors continue to outgrow the competition (18% assets growth rate for fee-only financial advisors and 14% assets growth rate for independent reps)
  • Mutual funds are the dominant investment product ($10.8 trillion) and used heavily by both the fast growing independent rep and fee-only financial advisor markets - suggesting that mutual funds aren't going away - even if much of the reporting and media focus is on other products, including exchange traded funds, separately managed accounts, and hedge funds
  • Packaged fee-account assets have grown substantially over the past eight ears to over $1.5 trillion but wirehouses' client assets are still just 15% in packaged fee-accounts and similarly only 16% of independent rep clients assets are in packaged fee-accounts; amazingly, banks have done slightly better with 17% of client assets in fee-based trust accounts but only 4% of bank trust department assets are invested with third-party managers
  • More broadly, the investment process is being polarized with twin growth patterns in both market-linked products and alternative investments
  • Investments may matter less than wealth management services as baby boomers move from the liquefaction & retirement income challenge years into their estate planning & charitable giving distribution years; for instance, the fast growing independent rep market puts almost one-third of its clients assets in annuities, but over three-quarters of annuity sales represent transfers from existing policies
  • And overall there has been more bad news for product companies as distribution continues to take power from manufacturing

Guest Speaker Introductions

To close out his presentation, Mr. Roame introduced the five guest speakers and gave a brief overview of what he expected each speaker to address:

  • John DesPrez (CEO, John Hancock Financial Services, Manulife Financial) will explain the impact of life expectancy subtleties, will explain the three legged stool for retirement security, and will suggest some solutions to the retirement income challenge, including hybrid products
  • Ed Haldeman (CEO, Putnam Investments, Marsh & McLennan) will discuss mergers & acquisitions, explain the keys to Putnam's deal with Power Corporation of Canada, and address the importance of corporate management
  • Steve Lockshin (CEO, Lydian Wealth Management, Lydian Trust Company) will discuss the recent sale of Lydian Wealth Management to City National Bank and Lydian's success in serving high net worth clients ($7.5 billion in 12 years) through a series of innovations and superior execution
  • Jim Riepe (Retired Vice Chairman & Senior Advisor, T. Rowe Price Group) will share his views on retirement security (including the three potential retirement solutions), address the evolution of siloed companies & the next steps in open architecture, and share his views for successful investment management firms
  • Paul Stevens (President & CEO, Investment Company Institute) will share his US policy views, address the changing power in Washington & the changing regulatory agenda, and reveal some new ICI research that, like Tiburon research, supports the growing use of financial advisors

Guest Presentations

Aside from Mr. Roame's opening keynote presentation, five guest presentations anchored the CEO Summit agenda:

Tiburon CEO Summit XII Guest Speaker John DesPrez (CEO, John Hancock Financial Services, Manulife Financial)

John DesPrez (CEO, John Hancock Financial Services, Manulife Financial)

John DesPrez has served as CEO of John Hancock Financial Services, the US division of Toronto-based Manulife Financial, since 2005, shortly after Manulife acquired John Hancock, in what arguably has been one of the most successful mergers in the financial services industry. Mr. DesPrez is also a member of Manulife’s Executive & Management Committees. He is based in Boston and directs all of John Hancock’s operations, including its core life insurance, variable annuities, long-term care insurance, retirement plans, guaranteed & structured financial products, mutual funds, and college savings plans businesses. He also is responsible for the common investment platform that underlies many of these products. In addition, Mr. DesPrez oversees the multiple distribution channels, including non-proprietary broker/dealers, banks, and the John Hancock Financial Network (its career agency system), which distribute the company’s broad range of insurance & investment products.

Mr. DesPrez address, titled Better Than the Alternative: The Longevity Revolution, focused on three key points:

  • Longevity will increasingly drive the financial needs of many consumers
  • Insurance products are best positioned to respond to longevity risk
  • John Hancock is particularly well-positioned in the insurance industry

Echoing the words of Tiburon’s Managing Principal Chip Roame earlier in the day, Mr. DesPrez began with the comment, “increasing life expectancies are creating dynamic changes all around – new products, new technologies, new regulations, and new sources of wealth.” Many agree with that point, but Mr. DesPrez utilized some Madison Avenue examples and also provided some subtle points that further clarified the gravity of the situation:

  • Life expectancy at birth is now 76.5 years; this is up dramatically from 68 in 1950, 47 in 1900, and 38 in 1800 (life insurance companies like John Hancock were around in those days!)
  • Life expectancy at age 65 has risen steadily since 1950; it is now approaching 20 years (18.7), up from 14 years in 1950. This is critical because it helps better define the retirement income challenge
  • Furthermore, Mr. DesPrez noted that, "there is an increasing need for couples to plan for a three or four decade retirement", with more than half (52%) of couples likely to have at least one member reach age 90
  • The traditional three-legged stool included Social Security, defined benefit pension plans, and individual savings. Mr. DesPrez joked though, that, "the traditional three-legged stool will end up looking much more like a barstool - with only a single leg of individual savings"
  • There is too much weight being placed on Social Security. In 1950, there were 16 workers for every Social Security recipient. This number is 3 to 1 today, and will be 2 to 1 in 20 more years (2030). It is increasingly possible that the US will be unable to deliver on the Social Security promise
  • Meanwhile, employers are backing away from defined benefit pension plans at an alarming rate, with coverage having reached an all time low of only 18% (17.9%), down from 35% in 1984
  • Furthermore, consumers are not solving their own problems. More than half (52%) of workers over age 55 have less than $50,000 in savings (a statistic similar to one quoted by Tiburon's Managing Principal Chip Roame earlier in the day)

Tiburon CEO Summit XII Guest Speaker John DesPrez (CEO, John Hancock Financial Services, Manulife Financial) & Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors)

In shifting to his second theme, Mr. DesPrez said that there is a need for new products to solve the retirement income challenge, including products that relieve baby boomers of the burden of being investment managers, hybrid products combining insurance, principal protection, and asset management, and life insurance replacing death insurance:
  • Lifestyle and lifecycle mutual funds will do well as they relieve baby boomers of the burden of being their own investment managers
  • Hybrid products will emerge that combine insurance, principal protection, and asset management
  • Life insurance will displace death insurance as baby boomers' key need

In his concluding remarks, Mr. DesPrez expressed that he thinks that the image of life insurance companies will change in the coming decades and that John Hancock is exceedingly well positions to address baby boomers' needs, with its well-recognized 145 year old brand and its Standard & Poor’s AAA rating. After finishing his prepared remarks, Mr. DesPrez conducted a lively 30 minute question & answer session. Tiburon’s Managing Principal Chip Roame said that, “John did a great job of bringing the retirement income challenge to life; this is not a text book issue but the biggest financial challenge ahead for most baby boomers. We are grateful for John's front-line insights, and for his sharing John Hancock’s strategies so openly.”

Manulife Financial and John Hancock Financial Services have both benefited from the purchase of multiple Tiburon research reports and Mr. Roame is speaking at a John Hancock conference this fall. Mr. DesPrez was introduced by Tiburon CEO Summit Planning Committee member Tif Joyce (President, Joyce Financial Management).

Tiburon CEO Summit XII Guest Speaker Ed Haldeman (CEO, Putnam Investments, Marsh & McLennan)

Ed Haldeman (CEO, Putnam Investments, Marsh & McLennan)

Ed Haldeman has served as CEO of Putnam Investments since 2003, and he was previously co-head of Putnam's Investments Division, which he led from 2002-2003. During his tenure, Putnam became the first firm to adopt reforms based on the Mutual Fund Protection Principles, a series of reforms endorsed by CalPERS and CalSTRS, which are among the largest pension funds in the United States.

With Putnam’s $3.9 billion sale to Power Financial Group in process, Mr. Haldeman candidly provided first-hand insights into industry consolidation. By way of introduction, Mr. Haldeman noted that Power Financial Group has returned 20% per year to its shareholders over the past 15 years, and it is the number two performing financial services stock in that period. He then made three key points:

  • Putnam’s struggles were substantial and required quick & decisive action
  • The core reason Power Financial Group was interested in Putnam was its vison, agenda, business plan, management team, management processes, and culture
  • Putnam’s turnaround is real

Mr. Haldeman began by addressing Putnam’s previous struggles head-on, especially those regarding the 2003 market timing scandal that nearly killed the firm. He shared that his efforts to settle quickly actually partially caused Putnam’s longer recovery, as state regulators saw this as a move of weakness, and held out for larger settlements.

Mr. Haldeman spent the majority of his time addressing his management philosophies and the reasons behind Power Financial Group's interest in acquiring Putnam:

  • Putnam created a new vision – we take care of other people’s money. He has encouraged all employees to think of the firm less as a mutual fund company and more as "a trusted advisor in stewardship and management of other people’s money." Mr. Haldeman added that he feels that, "visions must be clear & concise statements of the direction of organizations, that firms should not aim too high, and that executives should repeat their visions often"
  • Putnam created a decentralized, entrepreneurial, & transparent culture. Mr. Haldeman seeks, "to push decision making down and get out of the way." To facilitate this culture, he made dozens of changes, including eliminating the firm's executive dining room, disbanding its exclusive partners group, eliminating layers of management (saying that, "everyone now has a real job"), and holding meetings of all employees (not just officers). Furthermore, Mr. Haldeman pushes himself and all executives to get out of their offices, saying that, "a minute spent in the office is a minute wasted"
  • Mr. Haldeman said that Putnam needed to create a new agenda, which he did; it is now to produce results that are, "consistent, dependable, & superior." To support this agenda, Mr. Haldeman said that the firm’s compensation plan for portfolio managers is based 20% on one year performance, and 40% on each three and five year performance, with an emphasis on finishing in the upper half of their competitive peer groups. To emphasize the goal of consistently, Mr. Haldeman said that, “portfolio managers do not receive any additional compensation for being in the top decile, so as to discourage more volatile results"
  • Putnam created an easy to articulate business plan around retaining all asset classes and distribution channels, while, "taking out as much costs as possible in redundancies, management levels, & infrastructure"

Guest Speakers Paul Stevens (President & CEO, Investment Company Institute) & Ed Haldeman (CEO, Putnam Investments, Marsh & McLennan)

Finally, Mr. Haldeman argued that Putnam’s turnaround is real; he cited that:
  • The firm recently rolled out a family of asset allocation funds to allow professional implementation of a balanced strategy; this was the subject of a Wall Street Journal advertisement the day of his presentation and a supportive example to a point made the prior day by John DesPrez (CEO, John Hancock Financial Services, Manulife Financial)
  • Performance is strong; 69% of Putnam funds beat their Lipper averages for the three years ended March 31, 2007
  • The firm now has a below average redemption rate
  • The firm has had 100 retail platform wins in the past 12 months
  • And the firm has won $5 billion of institutional & global mandates in the past 6 months

After his opening comments, Mr. Haldeman engaged in a lengthy question & answer session with the group. Clearly, Mr. Haldeman has faced more difficult audiences with state & federal regulators, as well as previously disenchanted institutional clients and their consultants, though he answered even the toughest of questions from the audience with an inspiring degree of authenticity and an equally engaging sense of humor. At one point, Mr. Haldeman, a graduate of Dartmouth College and with both a JD and MBA from Harvard, suggested that he needed his chief financial officer’s help to understand, “why there was a C$ in front of the amount” in the negotiations with Power Financial Group, poking fun at his lack of foreign currency expertise. One gets the impression that this humility goes a long way for Mr. Haldeman toward building relationships with diverse constituencies of colleagues, employees, clients, and business partners. Tiburon’s Managing Principal Chip Roame summed up Mr. Haldeman’s comments by saying that, “Ed was open & honest regarding both Putnam's regulatory issues and its pending merger; that was terrific. But maybe even more importantly, he taught all attendees about the need for developing sustainable corporate cultures.”

Putnam Investments has benefited from the purchase of multiple Tiburon research reports and Mr. Haldeman was introduced by Tiburon CEO Summit Planning Committee member Kirk Michie (Managing Director, Lenox Advisors).

Tiburon CEO Summit XII Guest Speaker Steve Lockshin (CEO, Lydian Wealth Management, Lydian Trust Company)

Steve Lockshin (CEO, Lydian Wealth Management, Lydian Trust Company)

Steve Lockshin has served as CEO of Lydian Wealth Management, a unit of Lydian Trust Company, since 1994. Lydian Wealth Management was founded as CMS Financial Services in 1994 with a single $10 million client and $300,000 of personal cash. As the company's founder & visionary, Mr. Lockshin led the firm in becoming a market leader in objective consulting services for affluent families. Mr. Lockshin's focus remains on client service, with a particular emphasis on trust & estate tax strategies, concentrated wealth strategies, and overall family wealth planning.

In the opening comments of his address, humbly titled What You See is What You Get (WYSIWYG), Mr. Lockshin described himself as a businessman in the financial services industry, and said that he runs Lydian accordingly. He also shared that Lydian Wealth Management is under contract to be sold to City National Bank and will be henceforth known as Convergent Wealth Advisors. Beyond this, Mr. Lockshin discussed two key points:

  • Lydian Wealth Management has been successful in serving high net worth households (it has gathered $7.5 billion assets under management in twelve years) partly through a series of innovations but more so through superior execution
  • The firm’s recent sale to City National Bank affords the firm dramatic new opportunities

First off, Mr. Lockshin professed that Lydian did little in the way of innovation, but instead, said the firm was an early adopter and that the trick to success has been superior execution:

  • Lydian was an early adopter (e.g., Monte Carlo simulation in 1998, asset allocation in 1990, open architecture in 1990, consolidated reporting in 1990, asset location in 1996, estate planning in 1996, concentrated stock positions in 1995, collateralized loans in 1996, alternative investments in 1997, family governance & education in 1997, private travel in 1998, and wealth & happiness in 2000)
  • Lydian recognized early on that superior execution was the key. Mr. Lockshin said, "there is no secret sauce in this business; back-office service, research, and reporting are the differentiators." Lydian believes that much of its individual success has been built on its investment in people and technology
  • Mr. Lockshin said that, "financial advisors who provide a strong service should be confident in their fee schedule." He feels that, "there is pricing cannibalism in the industry that is hurting the business." Lydian has a cost allocation & quality assurance process (QUAC) which it uses to measure client profitability annually, calculating revenues and time resources invested; this allows the firm to raise fees with existing clients, evaluate pricing models for new clients, and trim unprofitable and low margin clients
  • Lydian created an award winning internship program to further its focus on people

Tiburon CEO Summit IX Guest Speaker Michael Sapir (CEO, ProFund Advisors), Tiburon CEO Summit XII Guest Speaker Steve Lockshin (CEO, Lydian Wealth Management, Lydian Trust Company), and Tiburon CEO Summit Planning Committe members John Cammack (Head of Third-Party Distribution, T. Rowe Price Group) & Dennis Clark (CEO, Advisor Partners)

Steve also addressed Lydian's pending sale to City National Bank and its renaming as Convergent Wealth Advisors. Lydian management is also retaining an interest. Fortigent is staying as a subsidiary of Lydian Trust Company. The Sun Trust acquisition of AMA is a good proxy. This being Mr. Lockshin's fourth merger (e.g., sale to Lydian, acquisition of Copper Beach Advisors, acquisition of Windermere Investment Advisory, sale to City National Bank), Mr. Lockshin had sound advice regarding consolidations:
  • Discuss management philosophies up-front
  • Seek synergies (e.g., Mr. Lockshin said that, "everyone is doing the same basic thing - compliance, research, operations, & reporting" but that his firm may be able to extend the use of hedge funds at City National Bank. Specifically, Mr. Lockshin said that, "hedge funds are not an asset class; this is where the alpha is." He said that Lydian clients, "may be over 50% invested in hedge funds one day, and he's happy to pay the managers"
  • Don't be afraid to use proprietary products if, "they are cheaper, provide better access, and/or are unique"
  • Don't be afraid to change course

Mr. Lockshin was introduced by Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors), who himself recently spoke at a Lydian conference.

Tiburon CEO Summit XII Guest Speaker Jim Riepe (Retired Vice Chairman & Senior Advisor, T. Rowe Price Group)

Jim Riepe (Retired Vice Chairman & Senior Advisor, T. Rowe Price Group)

Jim Riepe served as vice chairman of T. Rowe Price Group from 1997 until his retirement in 2006. During his 24 year tenure with the firm, he held various positions, including serving as a director of the T. Rowe Price Group and as chairman of the T. Rowe Price Funds. He has also served as chairman of the Investment Company Institute (the CEO of which, Paul Stevens, was also a speaker at Tiburon CEO Summit XII) and currently serves as director of The Nasdaq Stock Market and Genworth Financial (the CEO of which, Mike Fraizer, will speak at Tiburon CEO Summit XIII).

Mr. Riepe offered a wide range of observations about the financial services industry:

  • Retirement security is the most fundamental challenge for the financial services industry
  • Investment companies face a series of challenges that they must address head-on
  • Successful investment management firms put client interests first

Regarding retirement security, Mr. Riepe explained the situation quite simply, saying that, "government entitlements, employer liabilities, and individual savings are the three potential solutions." He addressed the two huge & problematic government programs – Social Security and Medicare, which are now viewed as entitlements by citizens and politicians. Mr. Riepe stated that:

  • There is a growing severity in the Social Security system, with too many retirees being supported by fewer and fewer workers, echoing comments made by John DesPrez (CEO, John Hancock Financial Services, Manulife Financial) the prior day
  • Mr. Riepe believes that, "the Social Security solution entails citizens and politicians reframing Social Security in their minds from an entitlement program to an insurance program." If viewed as insurance, it is much more reasonable not to receive benefits later in life should some Americans not need such, he said. "Three-quarters of the shortfall can be solved by removing benefits gradually for those earning greater than $50,000 when retired." And if the retirement age is raised a few years, the crisis can be solved
  • "Medicare is the elephant in the room," Mr. Riepe said. To solve this problem, he suggested that Americans with higher incomes should have higher deductibles combined with higher co-payments until one's medical expenses exceed a threshold"
  • Mr. Riepe said that, "no matter what actions are taken to solve these twin problems, individuals must save more during their lifetimes. The primary place this can happen is with employers. Yet, corporations are shifting responsibility for securing retirement income to individuals, as shown by the decline in defined benefit plans and the assent of defined contribution plans"
  • We must make the system work, and to do so, we need to continue to educate investors to make wise decisions regarding their savings & investing. The recent introduction of automatic enrollment and target date mutual funds are positive developments
  • The pending retirement of baby boomers will put $13 trillion into motion over the next two decades, which presents the industry with a wonderful opportunity. But, Mr. Riepe continued, “we must temper our enthusiasm to grow our profits with an understanding that more Americans are relying on us for their financial security”

Tiburon CEO Summit XII Sponsor Ron Cordes (Chairman, Asset Mark Investment Services, Genworth Financial) with Tiburon CEO Summit XII Guest Speaker Jim Riepe (Retired Vice Chairman & Senior Advisor, T. Rowe Price Group), and Tiburon CEO Summit Planning Committee member Tim Armour (Managing Director, Morningstar)

On his second point, Mr. Riepe said that investment companies will face a series of unprecedented challenges that they must address head-on. Success will require responsibility to customers, increasing open architecture, and transparency. Amongst the challenges he identified were:
  • The shift in emphasis from accumulation only to accumulation & distribution which will foster a new generation of products & services
  • Intense competition for clients that will challenge business strategies as well as the ways in which firms conduct their businesses (e.g., active managers will be challenged by exchange traded funds and index funds, while broker/dealers will need to compete against direct sellers)
  • The erosion of the wall between the institutional and retail businesses, which will create new industry roles
  • Greater transparency of costs which will result in fee pressure
  • More strategic alliances between organizations that will seek to combine core competencies to solve customer problems
  • Greater scrutiny from the public, media, and regulators

Finally, to build a sustainable franchise, Mr. Riepe suggested that successful firms must address all of the above challenges and stay profitable. This will require greater operating efficiency and a belief that “all products should be designed and priced for informed consumers.” Mr. Riepe went on to say that, “inherent in a sustainable franchise is creating value that customers want, need, and find useful. The best franchises seem to be able to evolve with their customers, discovering new ways to add value or lower costs.

Prior to taking questions, Mr. Riepe reminded the CEO-level audience of the often unsaid truth, that, “what makes asset managers unique is their fiduciary standards not seen in other industries.” A second difference from other industries is that, “the quality of products (investment returns) is inconsistent. This sets up a very difficult marketing, sales, & service approach. The consequence of forgetting our fiduciary standards was illustrated by the negative impact on Wall Street firms, insurers, and mutual fund companies that placed their interests ahead of those of their customers during recent scandals.” Mr. Roame complimented Mr. Riepe on, “helping to build a terrific firm in T. Rowe Price, and helping it always maintain a consumer orientation.”

T. Rowe Price has benefited from the purchase of multiple Tiburon research reports and Mr. Riepe was introduced by Tiburon CEO Summit Planning Committee member John Cammack (Head of Third-Party Distribution, T. Rowe Price Group).

Tiburon CEO Summit XII Guest Speaker Paul Stevens (President & CEO, Investment Company Institute)

Paul Stevens (President & CEO, Investment Company Institute)

Paul Stevens has served as President & CEO of the Investment Company Institute since 2004. He also is a director of ICI Mutual Insurance Company. Mr. Stevens' career has encompassed a number of roles in government service and the private sector, including being general counsel of the ICI from 1993 to 1997, general counsel for the mutual funds & international enterprises at The Charles Schwab Corporation from 1997 to 1999 (where he overlapped briefly with Tiburon Managing Principal Chip Roame), and a leader of the financial services practice of Dechert from 1999 to 2004.

In his comments, titled the State of the Mutual Funds Industry, Mr. Stevens addressed:

  • The ICI's mission and role in influencing public policy
  • Shifting policies and priorities on Capitol Hill with the regulators
  • Some new ICI research that, like Tiburon research, supports the benefits and growing use of financial advisors

Mr. Stevens started by describing the ICI’s role in influencing public policy. He detailed the specific activities that the ICI has undertaken as it seeks to execute on its mission to advance the interests of mutual funds, their shareholders, directors, & advisors, to encourage adherence to high ethical standards, and to promote public understanding of mutual funds. Mr. Stevens noted that:

  • The ICI’s role is to take member priorities and investor focus, and utilizing legal, government affairs, research, public communication, and outreach, deliver these views to the policy community
  • The public policy environment has shifted substantially since 2004 when he became President & CEO of the ICI. The key parties – congress, the media, and the regulatory agencies – are still the same, but outside forces and issues have shifted from the Dot.Com bubble, the 2000-2002 bear market, Enron, Sarbanes-Oxley, and the mutual fund trading scandals to 401k fees, proxy voting, digital delivery, 12b1 fees, regulatory rationalization, and the political power shift

Second, the audience enjoyed Mr. Stevens’ keen insights into the inter-workings within the Washington, DC beltway. Mr. Stevens said that, “today’s lame duck president and the divided Senate and House will likely result in little real progress on a host of important issues related to taxes, regulation, and retirement security.” He noted that:

  • The Democrats are taking charge on Capitol Hill but with a divided government, a lame duck president, and partisanship (over Iraq), gridlock is the likely outcome
  • He also noted that the 2008 election is starting early, further distracting the players from the legislative landscape
  • Mr. Stevens predicted that issues, such as the Bush tax cuts set to expire after 2010 and the 15% capital gains & dividends tax rates, would likely not see any near-term action
  • Possibly most close to home, he addressed the mutual fund disclosure issue before the regulators. He noted that “investors are overwhelmed” (only 34% consult prospectuses and 80% want concise descriptions). He said that the opportunity is “internet disclosure” (92% of mutual fund investors are online, including even 72% of investors 65 years old or older)
  • Mr. Stevens also added a series of retirement security issues to the regulatory agenda, including the 2006 Pension Protection Act, as well as auto-enrollment, default investments, and investment advice within 401k plans
  • He also noted that other financial services issues (e.g., executive compensation, corporate governance, privacy & data security, and hedge fund regulations) are the key issues likely to stall
  • Finally, Mr. Stevens also added a note of caution, saying that, "many of the oversight committees lose sight of the fact that consumer sentiment around the mutual funds industry remains highly correlated with stock market performance." He said that, “investors invest in mutual funds to make money, and if the market goes down, the level of satisfaction and investor confidence goes with it.” He observed that, "the Washington regulators typically respond by increasing oversight and regulation, which is not necessarily in the interests of anyone."
  • Mr. Stevens shared some new ICI research supporting the benefits of financial advisors. He noted that over three-quarters (82%) of shareholders who own mutual funds outside of retirement accounts do so at least partially with the help of financial advisors. He also called into question any changes to the current 12b1 system, saying that, "over half (52%) of 12b1 fees are used to pay for ongoing shareholder services and 40% are used to compensate financial advisors, and that the financial advisors will get paid somehow.” Mr. Stevens added that “85% of investors receive regular portfolio reviews & recommendations, 83% receive periodic discussions of financial goals, and 75% even say that they receive comprehensive financial planning.” Other ICI research shows that mutual fund fees have been coming down and that 401k plan investors cluster in low cost funds. Mr. Roame congratulated Mr. Stevens on, “running the most important financial services trade group, whose members control 40% of all consumer financial assets.”
  • Finally, the Investment Company Institute has benefited from the purchase of multiple Tiburon research reports, and Mr. Stevens was introduced by Tiburon CEO Summit Planning Committee member Dennis Clark (CEO, Advisor Partners).

General Session Panel Discussions

One of the key themes of every Tiburon CEO Summit is the need to more closely listen to clients. Tiburon CEO Summits' general session panel discussions (Ask the Consumers, Ask the Advisors, & Ask the Distributors) all allow Tiburon CEO-level clients to hear directly from their constituents in an unvarnished way. This is in sharp contrast to most CEOs' daily activities, where they are forced to rely on interpreting marketing data or listening to anecdotal stories from their sales forces. Addressing these clients first-hand through questions & answers helps Tiburon clients further consider innovative ideas for serving these different client groups.

Consumer Carolyn H. describes her investment philosophy of only investing in companies she knows well and uses their product - like Harley Davidson!

Ask the Consumers

As has become tradition at Tiburon CEO Summits, off-the-street consumers (Carolyn H., John P., Diane S., & Ron V.) in the thick of making retirement planning & other related decisions joined facilitator Tif Joyce (President, Joyce Financial Management) on the Ask the Consumers panel. The panel is the most direct way of hearing from and questioning consumers. The consumers were a 62 year old retired marketing executive, a 75 year old retired not-for-profit president, and a 50 year old sculptor and his 48 year old engineer wife. The panelists told about their experiences with brokers, bankers, insurance agents, independent advisors, and do-it-yourself approaches, making numerous key points:

  • Ron V. the 62 year old retired marketing director, claimed to have, “average investment experience in real estate, stocks, and mutual funds.” He needs banking, brokerage, wrap accounts, and long-term care insurance, but he and his wife specifically turned to a financial advisor for, “help in monitoring their retirement plan.”
  • Carolyn H., the 75 year old retired non-profit president managed her own accounts, “until she was 70.” She had, “served on the board of a bank” and invested in companies she knew (like Harley Davidson) and accumulated a large nest egg. In describing her investment philosophy, she talked about one stock that she knew because of one of her children. This particular stock traded as low as $10 and as high as $50. She said, “I bought it when it got to $10 and sold it when it got to $50.” The group concluded that it was an interesting idea, but not necessarily repeatable. The group saw her as a smart investor who made her own decisions. But she was recently widowed, had needs in, “financial, tax, & estate planning”, and sought out a certified financial planner to, “coordinate with her certified public accountant, attorney, and bank board.”
  • The married couple (sculptor and engineer) also directed their own investments, rehabbing houses. Unlike the other panelists, they like their situation and see no need for a financial advisor. She is an engineer and her company gave her stock options. Earlier in her career, someone offered her the advice that dramatically impacted their financial future – “keep the stocks and only sell them when the proceeds could change their lives.”

The contrast between those consumers who want to take advice and those who want to make their own decisions was quite visible across the panel. The attendees enjoyed the opportunity to hear direct from consumers on the Ask the Consumers panel; Kevin Malone (President, Greenrock Research) said that, “we all need to look to the end users to direct what we do.” Tiburon's Managing Principal Chip Roame agreed, saying, "unlike consumer goods, the financial service industry has never had a productive consumer research orientation."

Tiburon CEO Summit XI Guest Speaker & Tiburon CEO Summit XII Ask the Advisors panelist Ken Fisher (CEO, Fisher Investments) describes his firm's investment philosophies - coming to a mailbox near you

Ask the Advisors

With a similar goal to the Ask the Consumers panel, four leading financial advisors participated on the Ask the Advisors panel to allow attendees to better understand financial advisor businesses and decision-making. Facilitated by Dennis Clark (CEO, Advisor Partners), the panelists included Steve Hohenrieder (Partner, Think Wealth Management, Think Equity Partners, Panmure Gordon & Company), Ken Fisher (CEO, Fisher Investments), Jeff Lancaster (Managing Principal, Bingham, Osborn, & Scarborough, Boston Private Financial Holdings), and Alan Spiegelman (Wealth Management Advisor, Northwestern Mutual). The financial advisors were selected from various different backgrounds – financial planning, investment banking, insurance, and money management businesses - to provide a wide range of perspectives. Three of those panelists - Steve Hohenrieder, Jeff Lancaster, and Alan Spiegelman - represent successful, and yet far different approaches. The fourth panelist, Ken Fisher, who was a guest speaker at Tiburon CEO Summit XI, added valuable insights, including addressing Fisher Investments' unique (and well-known to us all) direct mail marketing strategy, as well as its investment management & recruiting strategies, which have helped the firm accumulate over $35 billion in assets under management. Amongst the key points made by the panelists were:

  • The panelists had some similarities and other differences. All are quite successful but their assets under management ranged from a successful solo practitioner model with 6 employees and $225 million (Northwestern Mutual) to a firm with 950 employees and $38 billion assets under management (Fisher Investments)
  • Three of the four (Bingham, Osborn, & Scarborough, Fisher Investments, and Northwestern Mutual have similar average client relationship sizes between $2.0 - $2.5 million, while Think Wealth Management's average client size is almost double that at $4.0 million
  • All four panelist serve mostly individual clients, with institutional clients making up one-third or less of their client bases
  • Three of the four (Bingham, Osborn, & Scarborough, Northwestern Mutual, and Think Wealth Management)  primarily rely on mutual funds and exchange traded funds, while Fisher Investments utilizes mostly individual stocks & bonds (90%)
  • The audience was treated to an in-depth discussion of each organization's sales & marketing strategies, use of technology, views regarding succession planning, and their needs from product companies and other vendors. Their answers were as varied as the firms themselves
  • However, there was complete agreement that the investment advisory business is truly a cottage industry. As evidenced by Tiburon research, unlike many sectors of the economy, there is no one firm or group of companies with significant market share. According to Ken Fisher, "the industry is so fragmented that one could have a whole specialization advertising to Americans in Mexico"
  • Consumer orientation is an often repeated theme at the CEO Summits. Randy Merk (President, Financial Products, The Charles Schwab Corporation) asked how client satisfaction was measured. All the financial advisors agreed that their very low termination rates (1%-3%) was the most telling statistic.

Tiburon CEO Summit attendees valued the opportunity to listen to these successful advisors discuss their businesses. Tif Joyce (President, Joyce Financial Management) predicted that, "the market will continue to bifurcate with some financial advisors being more client centric, allowing for a better accommodation of lifestyle needs for financial advisors like himself, while others would be more business focused and would continue to grow share." Tiburon's Managing Principal Chip Roame agreed, saying that, "there is an inaccurate message going around that small financial advisors' existing client bases are under threat; this simply is not supported. They may not grow as fast as others but I am not sure that their client bases are under any threat."

Panelists Ron Cordes (Chairman, Asset Mark Investment Services, Genworth Financial), Bill Dwyer (President, LPL Independent Advisor Services, LPL Financial Services), John Iachello (Chief Operating Officer, Pershing Advisor Solutions, Pershing, The Bank of New York Mellon Corporation), and Skip Schweiss (Executive Vice President, Fiserv Investment Support Services, Fiserv) & panel facilitator Kevin Malone (President, Greenrock Research) gave valuable tips for accessing their networks of financial advisors

Ask the Distributors

In keeping with the Tiburon CEO Summit tradition of emphasizing the need to listen carefully to one's clients and prospective clients, Tiburon CEO Summit's inaugural Ask the Distributors panel delivered the goods. For many Tiburon clients, understanding distribution firms is crucial to their firm's success. Gaining access to an organization's network of financial advisors can be crucial to a firm's success. Wirehouses such as Merrill Lynch, independent broker/dealers such as LPL Financial Services, and custodians such as The Charles Schwab Corporation can account for 50% or more of financial product companies' sales. Tiburon's Ask the Distributors panel allowed these distribution organizations to discuss their needs from investment management firms through questions & answers. Four major distribution firms provided insights on how they serve their constituents and how they would be receptive to hearing from the product manufacturers in the financial services business. Panelists included Ron Cordes (Chairman, Asset Mark Investment Services, Genworth Financial), Bill Dwyer (President, LPL Independent Advisor Services, LPL Financial Services), John Iachello (Chief Operating Officer, Pershing Advisor Solutions, Pershing, The Bank of New York Mellon Corporation), & Skip Schweiss (Executive Vice President, Fiserv Investment Support Services, Fiserv). The Ask the Distributors panel was facilitated by Kevin Malone (President, Greenrock Research). Amongst the key points were:

Panelists Bill Dwyer (President, LPL Independent Advisor Services, LPL Financial Services)

  • The panelists represented a huge source of assets in the market, including 37,500 financial advisors and $263 billion assets under management
  • Their financial advisors rely heavily upon mutual funds, exchange traded funds, & separate accounts, with these three products accounting for the vast majority of assets as Asset Mark, LPL, and Fiserv, and 50% at Pershing
  • Product needs that were expressed included lower cost mutual funds, access to closed separately managed account strategies, retirement income planning vehicles, and better technology
  • Most panelists said that access would be granted to manufacturers with innovative product offerings that address financial advisor needs’, and/or those which pay to be on platforms or by sponsoring conferences
  • Some financial advisor wholesaling strategies recommended included consultative training sessions, break-out sessions at conferences, online educational web demonstrations, and trade publication advertising
  • Ron Cordes described how for the first time his firm engaged a professional survey firm to interview investors across America. The findings proved to be valuable for the financial advisors using Asset Mark in that they found investors are very concerned about their financial advisors ability to offer and implement solutions which would safeguard them from outliving their savings (Asset Mark moved to solve this need)
  • Both Bill Dwyer and John Iachello emphatically made the observation that what financial advisors are looking for are solutions - solutions for their business practices and solutions for their clients' wealth management needs. All of the panelist agreed that, as platforms and custodians, they are in a unique position to offer the solutions because they have the capital and collective clientele to make such solutions available
  • Skip Schweiss made a provocative observation that, "the need for transparency is bunk; clients' don't care . . . they want to feel comfortable that their financial advisors know what is in their prospectuses." He also made a point that all the panelists agreed upon and that was contrary to popular press; that was that most financial advisors are still using mutual funds and very few use new products like hedge funds

The panel added perfectly to the Tiburon CEO Summit's agenda of focusing the CEO-level attendees on client needs. Dennis Clark (CEO, Advisor Partners) summarized the panel saying that, "these guys know what financial advisors want; we need to see them as our clients too." Tiburon's Managing Principal Chip Roame agreed saying, that "the Ask the Distributors panel fit in just as hoped, to get all Tiburon CEO-level clients to see that this industry has three levels of clients - the end clients themselves, their financial advisors, and the firms with which these financial advisors affiliate."

Break-Out Sessions

Nine break-out sessions were held, allowing attendees to more informally debate trends and business strategies. Each session included no more than thirty-five attendees, promoting frank discussion on a wide variety of topics. The sessions were kicked off with brief presentations of Tiburon research related to each break-out session topic.

The break-out sessions were grouped into three broad categories: products (including mutual funds, separately managed accounts & other fee-account programs, hedge funds, venture capital & private equity, real-estate, & other alternative investments); markets (including consumer wealth, liquefaction & the retirement income challenge, captive advisors (brokers, private bankers, & insurance agents), and independent advisors (fee-only financial advisors & independent reps); & financial advisor issues (including sales & marketing strategies, technology, and mergers & acquisitions.

Separately Managed Accounts & Other Fee-Account Programs

Tim Armour (Managing Director, Morningstar) and Kevin Malone (President, Greenrock Research) facilitated a discussion on separately managed accounts & other fee-account programs. Mr. Armour started the discussion with a review of Tiburon research on these topics. Amongst other facts, the research showed that:

  • Packaged fee-account programs have grown substantially over the past eight years to include over $1.5 trillion assets under management; this includes all of the client assets in the proprietary programs built by the wirehouses, as well as those built by the turnkey asset management programs (TAMPs) and used through many other channels
  • Many report that the wirehouses dominate the fee-accounts market (they control 68% of the assets of the packaged programs) but due to the historical bias of the asset base towards commission accounts, still just 16% of wirehouses’ client assets are invested in fee-accounts
  • A similar share of independent reps’ (16%) and banks' (17%) client assets are invested in fee-accounts
  • Banks though struggle with using third-party managers (just 4% of their trust department assets)
  • There are eight types of packaged fee-account programs, including separately managed accounts, multiple style portfolios, mutual fund wrap account programs, annuity wrap account programs, exchange traded fund wrap account programs, unified managed account programs, broker wrap account programs, and fee-based brokerage account programs, which are currently under threat
  • Wirehouses have long relied on separately managed accounts; their trend is toward multiple style portfolios and unified managed accounts
  • Multiple style portfolio programs create an exciting new model, solving many of the separately managed account program issues
  • Meanwhile, mutual fund wrap account programs have also continued to grow steadily but a lot of the business is coming from outside of the wirehouses, with Ameriprise Financial, Fidelity Investments, SEI Investments, and LPL having the four largest programs
  • The homerun is on the horizon. Unified managed accounts are what clients originally wanted; these programs will ultimately combine single proposal systems, multiple products (e.g., separately managed accounts, mutual funds, exchange traded funds, & individual securities), advisor customization ability, single account & related paperwork, coordinated pricing, automatic account rebalancing, account level tax treatment, & consolidated performance reporting
  • However, the most central point made in the Tiburon research presentation was that the real fee-accounts market should be defined to include the fee-only financial advisors market (RIAs) ($1.1 trillion), the bank trust accounts market ($1.0 trillion), and the high net worth money managers direct market ($0.5 trillion); when including these markets, new conclusions will be made, as opposed to analyzing just the $1.5 trillion packaged fee-accounts market, which the wirehouses do dominate with separately managed accounts

After the opening presentation, the group seemed to reach consensus that separately managed account programs have genuine momentum in the financial press but that several viable alternatives provide better solutions for many financial advisors and their clients.

  • Often the major separately managed account players will spin their growth by highlighting share of flows rather than share of assets, which is below 20%
  • Mr. Malone remarked that, “the impression created in the press is that packaged fee-accounts are huge, when 84% of wirehouse client assets were still sold with commissions.” Furthermore, even within fee-accounts the most popular discussion topics were mutual fund and exchange traded fund solutions
  • Art Lutschaunig (President, Morningstar Investment Services, Morningstar) chimed in to express strong opposition to the new “model” or “list” approach for separately managed accounts in which money managers are relegated to simply providing purchase lists to overlay managers. Jim Riepe (Retired Vice Chairman & Senior Advisor, T. Rowe Price Group) agreed that such approaches risk uneven treatment of portfolio trades, ultimately potentially diminishing the value of the research and portfolio management processes of money managers
  • There though was interest in separately managed accounts. One financial advisor in the group said that the difficulty in moving large sums in and out of mutual funds left him considering separately managed accounts as an alternative for his practice. But strong sentiment was expressed that such a change would be a mistake, and that he should instead reconsider the size of the funds in which he invests. John Tyers (Senior Managing Director, Broker/Dealer Clearing & Investment Advisor Services, The Bear Stearns Companies) mentioned that among other concerns, “the likelihood for transaction errors would potentially increase significantly.” Mike Gianoni (Executive Vice President, Investment Services Division, Check Free) said that, “the significant capital invested in its Check Free APL system has resulted in a significantly more efficient and error-free transaction experience”
  • Ron Cordes (Chairman, Asset Mark Investment Services, Genworth Financial) mentioned that his firm is having great success with multiple style portfolios. He attributed the success to greater efficiency and back-office simplicity and noted that his firm’s collaboration with Parametric provided a powerful tax overlay to optimize portfolio decisions. Additionally, he outlined a unique retirement product which combines growth, balanced, and income sleeves, which are offered as three separate tiers of one unified managed retirement account
  • The group debated the lack of (and need for) customization and tax planning in separately managed accounts. Mr. Cordes related that, “the active customization that Asset Mark brings to investors with concentrated portfolios is significant, offering diversification while balancing the economic risks of concentrated portfolios”
  • Mutual fund wrap account programs seem to be regaining momentum. Mr. Lutschaunig remarked that his, “diversified mutual fund wrap account program has gathered nearly $2 billion by offering a wide variety of low-cost institutional and diverse mutual funds, which will benefit from direct custody relationships with the mutual funds themselves.” That said, there was general agreement that soft-dollar payouts will continue to decline as 12b-1 fees come under renewed regulatory scrutiny
  • Mr. Roame closed by saying, that “all is sorting out in the fee-accounts market; unified managed accounts are the product that should have existed all along”

Hedge Funds, Venture Capital & Private Equity, Real Estate, & Other Alternative Investments

Tim Armour (Managing Director, Morningstar) and Kevin Malone (President, Greenrock Research) facilitated a discussion on the wide-ranging alternative investments markets. Mr. Armour began by presenting recent Tiburon research on these topics. Amongst other facts, the research showed that:

  • Alternative investments vary on their risk & reward parameters; they need to be considered individually, with products like macro or opportunistic hedge funds or single venture capital investments having far higher risks (and potential rewards) than other alternative investments like timberland or farm land
  • Each of the four types of alternative investments also has a different positioning, with hedge funds generally utilized as uncorrelated investments, while venture capital, private equity, and real estate provide exposure to incremental asset classes
  • Product proliferation is incredible; there are now more hedge funds (8,600) than mutual funds (7,929), and hedge fund assets have reached $1.8 trillion worldwide
  • While most hedge funds (65%) have less than $50 million in assets under management, almost two-thirds of aggregate hedge fund assets are held by the largest funds, and hedge funds-of-funds now account for 40% of all assets
  • Hedge funds’ performance data is sloppy at best, with self-reporting data varying across industry databases, and suffering from both cherry picking and survivor bias; one quoted study suggested that the impact of cherry picking alone may lower the average hedge fund return from 10.7% to 6.4%
  • Although pension plans and other institutional investors are now a greater presence in the hedge funds market, individuals and family offices still account for the majority (55%) of hedge fund assets
  • Managed futures have also exploded in assets from $1 billion in 1985 to $81 billion today
  • The venture capital & private equity markets are also growing quickly (with dozens of $1 billion funds being raised recently); however, many of the largest and top-performing funds are inaccessible for all but the largest institutional investors (specifically it was noted that 52% of all assets in venture capital funds were sourced from institutional investors)
  • One issue with private equity funds is the wide range of performance returns between the top and bottom decile managers (15% - 30%) as opposed to traditional fixed income and public equities managers where a few percentage points separate the best and worst managers

Paul Schaeffer (Managing Director, SEI Investments) makes a point while Keith Mitchell (Principal, Mitchell Advisers) looks on during a break-out session at Tiburon CEO Summit XII

After making his opening presentation, Mr. Armour called on Amit Choudhury (Managing Principal, Pinnacle Partners), an investment consultant and client of Tiburon, to give his perspectives on hedge funds today.
  • Mr. Choudhury noted that, “the average hedge fund manager produces poor returns”, noting that, “only the top 10% or 25% of funds achieve good returns.” Mr. Choudhury also noted that, “fees are going down for average managers but rising for the best managers.” Participants also discussed the difficulties in accessing the best performing hedge funds. Mr. Choudhury added that, “financial advisors and their clients are similarly not likely to be able to get investment access to the superior performers.” In the club-like category, access is severely restricted to preferred relationship-based investors”
  • Mr. Armour then called on Paul Schaeffer (Managing Director, SEI Investments), a back-office expert, to give his views on the future of hedge funds. Mr. Schaeffer noted that, “the institutionalization of hedge funds is underway.” He suggested that, “transparency will be demanded.” Mr. Roame confirmed Mr. Schaeffer’s observations and predicted that we may see a “bifurcation of the business, with high alpha stand-alone managers on one hand and more mediocre performing institutional managers on the other hand”
  • Mr. Malone pointed out that the issues related to transparency by reviewing the CS Tremont hedge fund index and comparing it to the CS Tremont investable hedge fund index. The data shows that the investable index lags the hedge fund index by 2% - 3%, confirming Mr. Roame’s observation about a potential bifurcation, some producing good returns while most producing average to poor returns
  • New hedge fund creation was discussed as a current and likely ongoing phenomenon. Gurinder Ahluwalia (President, Genworth Financial Asset Management, Genworth Financial), noted that, “good managers at highly established hedge funds can raise capital before starting a fund, even without anyone knowing of the opportunity”
  • Discussion then centered on the evolution of retail distribution channels for alternative investments. Synthetic hedge funds were addressed by Mr. Armour. He noted that he had, “observed a trend toward the development of predictable synthetic hedge funds, especially for moderately sized investors.” Mr. Armour also shared that as Morningstar has expanded its coverage of the category to nearly 6,000 funds in its database, the firm has characterized the category as a virtual barbary coast, which must be traversed carefully. Mr. Roame explained the difficulties with hedge fund data, saying that, “in a market when performance reporting is optional, averages are meaningless”
  • Mr. Choudhury forecast that broadly diversified funds-of-funds will be the popular format going forward. John Iachello (Chief Operating Officer, Pershing Advisor Solutions, Pershing, The Bank of New York Mellon Corporation) agreed that the fund-of-fund structure would remain popular at his firm as a way to diversify risk
  • Despite the potential pitfalls, the group seemed to agree that the salient need for investment opportunities with lower correlations with the equity market will drive the growth and popularity of hedge funds
  • Participants also discussed the booming venture capital & private equity markets, noting that in contrast to hedge funds, pension funds hold the majority of assets. Mr. Roame predicted that, “we may see the same consumerism rise in venture capital & private equity as we have seen in hedge funds”

Wealth Management & Family Office Services

Tif Joyce (President, Joyce Financial Management) and Kirk Michie (Managing Director, Lenox Advisors) facilitated a discussion on key trends in the wealth management & family office services marketplace, including the various products needed to serve widely evolving client needs. Mr. Joyce began by sharing the latest data & analysis from Tiburon’s research. Amongst other facts, the research showed:
  • The definition of wealth management can be very broad, including many unrelated services such as auto purchasing, legal services, tax preparation, and estate planning
  • Baby boomers are evolving into the years where wealth management may surpass investment management as their priority need. One all encompassing Tiburon chart explained clearly how baby boomers are exiting their accumulation years and entering their liquefaction years, where annuities, life insurance, wills, trusts, and charitable giving may be on the top of their needs list
  • Over-half of high net worth investors (58%) want holistic advice beyond investments, and almost all financial advisors (92%) desire to offer wealth management services
  • Merrill Lynch’s Total Merrill program may be the best example of a comprehensive wealth management offer systematically in the market
  • Many financial advisors (80%) claim that poor technology impedes their ability to effectively offer wealth management services
  • Tiburon defines the key components of wealth management as four groups of services beyond investments, including aggregation financial/tax planning, risk management (insurance), private banking, and estate planning & charitable giving
  • Disability and long-term care insurance provide near-term opportunities
  • Umbrella insurance policies may become more critical , with so much wealth held by small business owners
  • The retirement income challenge may lead to both annuitization and more conservative investment strategies
  • Estate planning & charitable giving should grow in popularity, leading to increases in life insurance and trust account sales
  • More than half (53%) of consumers believe that they need more life insurance, only half (58%) have even wills, just one-fifth (21%) have created trusts, and three-quarters (76%) want to learn more about charitable giving strategies
  • In short, wealth management services are important at all levels of wealth, but especially amongst the most affluent

Chuck Robinson (Senior Vice President, Investment Products & Services, Northwestern Mutual) discusses Northwestern Mutual's strategies with Tiburon CEO Summit Planning Committee member Tim Armour (Managing Director, Morningstar) at a break-out session at Tiburon CEO Summit XII

Mr. Michie opened a lively discussion regarding the definition of wealth management services.
  • Session participants believed that while most organizations believe they are providing wealth management services, they are really primarily focused on investment advice. Organizations that are providing wealth management services are providing broader bundles, including aggregation, financial planning, asset allocation, banking, estate planning, and/or insurance.
  • According to Steve Lockshin (CEO, Lydian Wealth Management, Lydian Trust Company), "we all live in Lake Wobegon, where all financial advisors truly believe that they are above average, so they bestowed the title of wealth manager on themselves in order to show that they are somehow elite. When in the financial analysis, it always comes back to the basics of gaining trust and providing superior service.”
  • Ken Fisher (CEO, Fisher Investments) dissented, saying, "I don't want to be a wealth manager." Mr. Fisher has built a $38 billion investment management firm but he certainly was in the minority. Tiburon research affirmed that, “more than 90% of financial advisors desire to offer services traditionally only available through family offices.
  • It was concluded that most organizations that offer or say that they offer comprehensive wealth management services lead with the specific aspects of the wealth management bundle that are their legacy offerings, for example private banking for a bank and insurance for an insurance company. Offering a true bundle of wealth management services remains a difficult task as does getting clients to pay for the bundle. While those organizations are offering wealth management services, the fees are attached to asset management services or to commissions on insurance and credit products. Mr. Roame said that, “if you do not address the insurance need, how can you claim to be a wealth manager”

Consumer Wealth, Liquefaction, & the Retirement Income Challenge

Tim Armour (Managing Director, Morningstar) and John Cammack (Head of Third-Party Distribution, T. Rowe Price) facilitated a discussion on consumer wealth, liquefaction, & the retirement income challenge. Mr. Armour opened the session by reviewing Tiburon research which outlined the amount of consumer wealth, the pending liquefaction, and the likely retirement income challenge. Amongst other facts, the research showed that:

  • US consumers have almost $20 trillion of investable assets, $28 trillion of financial assets, and $50 trillion of total assets
  • The bad news is that over three-quarters of baby boomers over the age of 55 have less than $100,000 in investable assets (similar to a fact that would be shared the following day by John Hancock CEO John DesPrez), the savings rate continues to hit all time lows (0.2%), and very few (2%) of US households will receive an inheritance over $100,000
  • But the good news is that baby boomers’ pending retirement will drive more assets into the investable assets market due to the liquefaction of their retirement plans, homes, & businesses; specifically, the amount of wealth that will transfer will raise overall investable assets from approximately $20 trillion to almost $30 trillion by 2015, creating a tremendous opportunity for financial advisors (a good example of this is the $300+ billion rolling out of retirement plans and into individual retirement accounts each year)
  • At the same time, however, investors' post-retirement life expectancies have increased dramatically, creating a challenge for financial advisors who must design portfolios for their clients that will provide for their needs during their retirement years
  • Specifically while the average life expectancy is 76.5, the average 65 year old male has a 65% chance of living past 85, and amongst 65 year old couples, there is a 50% chance that one (or both) of them will live another 25 years
  • Retirement income products are likely to include annuitization and less volatile investment strategies

The breakout session attracted a large audience and first responded to the Tiburon research findings with a wide ranging discussion about the significant issues facing the mass of retirees that are presently unprepared for retirement.

  • Brian Reid (Chief Economist, Investment Company Institute) observed that, “there is a market demand to provide comprehensive solutions using mutual funds in retirement portfolios, following the defined benefit model, like the old days when more of the workforce had pensions as a safety retirement net”
  • The group then easily reached a consensus on the daunting public policy issues surrounding retirement income planning. Mr. Armour reminded the group of a thought from CEO Summit XI by David Carroll (President, Capital Management Group, Wachovia Corporation) who said that, “the retirement issue persists because there is no immediate consequence of doing nothing.” As such, "the future breadth and magnitude of this issue is likely to overwhelm efforts to marshal needed resources to deal with it." Mr. Cammack observed that, “the session attendees seemed to have a consensus that private industry programs and resources may be inadequate given the magnitude of the retirement challenge and will require some form of government intervention or guarantees to bolster private solutions"
  • Paul Schaeffer (Managing Director, SEI Investments) observed that some means of pooling retirement resources in individuals' balance sheets must be found. Jeff Cusack (Managing Director, Sales & Marketing, Rex & Company) agreed and explained his firm’s unique solution that allows a partial forward sale of real estate to provide needed liquidity
  • On a more practical level, the group agreed that the IRA rollover opportunity in the future will be significant but that no player has determined an effective way to capture a high share of dollars that are flowing out. Randy Merk (President, Schwab Financial Products, The Charles Schwab Corporation) identified, “the difficulty that firms will have profitably serving mass affluent households with just greater than $100,000 in investable assets.” In addition, he identified the challenge that, “the affluent market will have to insure adequate health care in retirement.” “Paying a retainer for guaranteed quality care from physicians,” was an example of an emerging solution
  • Shifting the group to a channels discussion, Mr. Armour added that, "while financial advisors have developed the needed level of trust with retirees, they do not necessarily have the needed retirement planning expertise that resides with insurance firms.” Chuck Robinson (Senior Vice President, Investment Products & Services, Northwestern Mutual) agreed, observing that his firm is, “preparing to deal with what it sees as the five basic retirement needs - investments, guaranteed income, consolidation & monitoring, medical issues, and estate & legacy issues.” The group observed that the combination of asset managers and insurance firms will be a frequent emerging partnership in the future
  • Finally, the discussion touched on the need for coordinated pricing between insurance and non-insurance products. Gurinder Ahluwalia (President, Genworth Financial Asset Management, Genworth Financial) observed that, “a number of broker/dealer clients trying to deliver more symmetrical pricing across a diversified portfolio of guaranteed income and financial products.” The consensus of the group was that client demand to meet the retirement income challenge is significant and will continue to be a top priority for both manufacturers and distributors”
  • Mr. Roame summarized Tiburon’s view that, “the pending liquefaction and retirement income challenge will make it a great time to be a financial advisor, at least for the next two decades”

Attendees listening at a break-out sessions at Tiburon CEO Summit XII

Captive Advisors (Brokers, Private Bankers, & Insurance Agents)

John Cammack (Head of Third-Party Distribution, T. Rowe Price) and Tif Joyce (President, Joyce Financial Management) facilitated a discussion that addressed captive advisors, including brokers, private bankers, & insurance agents. Mr. Joyce opened the session by reviewing some Tiburon research. Amongst other facts, the research showed that:

  • There are now 250,000 captive advisors, including over 92,000 wirehouse, other national, regional, and boutique brokers, over 80,000 life and property & casualty insurance agents, and over 80,000 bank brokers and trust officers
  • Captive advisors dominate consumers’ investable assets, with wirehouses and banks each controlling about one-third (31% and 27% respectively) or $6.2 trillion and $5.4 trillion in client assets
  • But captive advisors are growing slower than other channels; with independent advisors growing client assets at 14%-18% per annum, full-service brokers (11%), retail banks & trust officers (3%), and life and property & casualty insurance companies (2%) losing ground
  • Several brokerage firms have 10,000+ person sales forces, with Merrill Lynch having 13,600, Smith Barney having 12,800, and Wachovia Securities having 10,600 (and Wachovia Securities made a big post-CEO Summit announcement to acquire AG Edwards)
  • The average wirehouse broker controls almost $75 million in client assets, reflecting strong growth and an amount far higher than that of independent advisors, especially independent reps
  • The average bank-based financial advisor’s production was up 33% in 2005 but still to just $173,800, and bank brokers continue to rely heavily on fixed annuities (41%), variable annuities (27%), and mutual funds (22%)

After Mr. Joyce’s opening presentation, the group first established the definition of captive advisors as financial advisors operating under employment contracts.

  • And correctly, the group agreed that open architecture is less of a distinction between independent and captive advisors, as Alan Spiegelman (Wealth Management Advisor, Northwestern Mutual) stated that, “both groups now enjoyed a high degree of open architecture”, dispelling old myths about captive advisors
  • Bill Dwyer (President, LPL Independent Advisor Services, LPL Financial Services) explained that the primary reason brokers leave captive firms to join independent broker/dealers is to “control their own destiny.” A secondary reason, but one growing in importance, is the ability to “monitize their practice value.” Mr. Joyce then explained his own personal situation, saying that, “he left a bank broker/dealer role after many years because he could no longer solve his clients’ problems”
  • On a more tactical level, Mr. Joyce, who himself was also previously a rep at Ameriprise Financial, explained the merits of independence, stating that it can be a competitive advantage for an independent rep to promote their independence from the large corporate wirehouses. But Chuck Robinson (Senior Vice President, Investment Products & Services, Northwestern Mutual) and Alan Spiegelman (Wealth Management Advisor, Northwestern Mutual) balanced the view saying that the captive environment serves many financial advisors well. Mr. Robinson also noted that Northwestern Mutual was now the fifth largest broker/dealer
  • That said, the group debated the significance of the breakaway broker trend. The general consensus was that the trend would slow as the captive broker/dealers (wirehouses) become more accommodating and permit brokers to select the form of relationship they prefer with their broker/dealer. A few present felt that, "the growing complexity of the regulatory environment will slow the flow of financial advisors to the independents.” Ken Fisher (CEO, Fisher Investments) took a contrarian view, saying that, “for most financial advisors, compliance within today’s regulatory environment is not a big deal, given the simplicity of their business models.” Mr. Roame agreed, pointing out that, “there may be more compliance complexity today operating as a commission based broker under NASD regulations than as a RIA”
  • The group debated client ownership, whether the clients belong to the financial advisors or the firms. The consensus was that even in the wirehouses, control is gradually shifting to the financial advisors. Mr. Dwyer stated that, “clients will decide who to do business with and will follow their financial advisors if their relationships are strong.” John Bowen (CEO, CEG Worldwide) agreed that with convergence, the independent and captive brokers are calling on the same customers and offering the same services, especially in the high net worth marketplace”
  • From a product manufacturers' perspective, David Smilow (Chairman, Jefferson National Financial, Inviva Securities Corporation) offered that distribution to captive advisors and independent advisors is very different when selling insurance products, and that wirehouse brokers are less interested than RIAs in his firm's no-load annuities
  • The session ended with a brief summary of the Merrill Lynch rule, provided by Julie Allecta (Partner, Paul, Hastings, Janofsky, & Walker)
  • Mr. Roame summarized Tiburon’s view that, "the independent market will likely far outgrow the captive environment in numbers of financial advisors and assets under management, but the captive environment's profitability will continue to make it a force"

Tiburon CEO Summit Planning Committee member David Smith (Group Publisher, Financial Advisor Magazine, Charter Financial Publishing Network) presents Tiburon research during a break-out session at Tiburon CEO Summit XII

Independent Advisors (Fee-Only Financial Advisors & Independent Reps)

Dennis Clark (CEO, Advisor Partners) and David Smith (Group Publisher, Financial Advisor Magazine, Charter Financial Publishing Network) facilitated a discussion that addressed independent advisors, including fee-only financial advisors, independent reps, and the emerging group of hybrids. Mr. Smith, using Tiburon research, presented underlying data; amongst other facts, he shared that:

  • There are now over 110,000 independent advisors (82,000 independent reps and 30,000 partners at fee-only financial advisors), well more than the number of wirehouse brokers (92,000)
  • Independent advisors though still control just one-third of the assets of full-service brokers ($2.1 trillion versus $6.2 trillion); this includes $1.1 trillion controlled by the fee-only financial advisors and $1.0 trillion controlled by the independent reps
  • In terms of client assets, fee-only financial advisors (18%) and independent reps (14%) are far outgrowing the other channels – full-service brokers (11%), discount brokers (9%), banks (3%), and insurance agents (2%)
  • Although both referred to as independent advisors, the independent rep and fee-only financial advisor markets are quite different (e.g, independent reps average $12 million assets under administration while fee-only financial advisors average $56 million assets under management; independent reps invest 15% of client assets in fee-accounts while self-reported fee-only financial advisors invest 85% of client assets in fee-accounts; independent reps have an average account size of $142,000 while fee-only financial advisors average $510,000)
  • LPL, HD Vest, and Raymond James Financial Services are the leading independent broker/dealers in terms of number of reps, with rep forces of 5,800+, 5,500+, and 4,800+
  • LPL and Raymond James Financial Services have a huge lead in terms of the number of reps producing at least $100,000 of revenues, with 3,200+ and 2,000+
  • The Charles Schwab Corporation, TD Ameritrade, and Fidelity Investments dominate the fee-only financial advisor market with 5,200, 4,200, and 2,700 financial advisor clients respectfully (and TD Ameritrade made a post-CEO Summit announcement to acquire the 500 financial advisor clients of Fiserv)
  • The Charles Schwab Corporation is further out in front when measuring fee-only financial advisor client assets, with $468 billion versus $137 billion at Fidelity Investments and $58 billion at TD Ameritrade

After Mr. Smith’s presentation, the group initially focused on gaining a more clear distinction of the regulatory, practice ethics, revenue, & valuation factors that distinguish independent reps and fee-only financial advisors.

  • Mr. Clark, citing Tiburon research, asserted that, “fee-only advisors generate more revenues, work with wealthier clients, and ultimately develop businesses with higher valuations.” However, everybody agreed that the broker/dealer model or commission model was not going away
  • Beyond this stage setting, the most relevant topic affecting this segment of the distribution chain was widely agreed to be the Merrill Lynch rule recommended by the SEC and recently rejected by a federal appeals court. The SEC’s broker/dealer exemption rule was struck down because, “the commission lacks authority to grant brokers broad exceptions to rules that apply to investment advisors.” Julie Allecta (Partner, Paul, Hastings, Janofsky, & Walker) remarked that, “this is not the first time that the SEC has been rebuffed by the courts”
  • Mike DiGirolamo (Managing Director, Investment Advisors Division, Raymond James Financial Services, Raymond James) said that, “his firm and others have already taken steps to accommodate the potential impact.” Raymond James Financial’s representatives are, “able to accept their responsibilities as fiduciaries and may continue to charge fees versus commissions no matter what action is taken by the ruling.” Skip Schweiss (Executive Vice President, Fiserv Investment Support Services, Fiserv), which has a huge business with dually registered reps sees, “the ruling and the discussion around the ruling as good for the overall business and good for the ultimate consumer of financial advice”
  • However, the group did agree that because the SEC has so many issues on its agenda and because Washington is in a state of flux, any real action is not going to happen soon. Furthermore, the group also agreed that the industry should also not wait for the government and should coalesce around the issue, and take the lead in educating and embracing consumers, versus arguing and confusing consumers
  • Mr. Roame added that, "independent reps will continue to grow in numbers but fee-only financial advisors seem to be capturing the greatest share of the assets". Mr. Roame also noted that, "for the first time, the number of independent reps was greater than the number of wirehouse brokers"

Financial Advisor Sales & Marketing

Dennis Clark (CEO, Advisor Partners), Tom Lydon (President, Global Trends Investments), and David Smith (Group Publisher, Financial Advisor Magazine, Charter Financial Publishing Network) facilitated a discussion around sales & marketing strategies. Mr. Clark highlighted key findings from Tiburon research, including opportunities in targeting prospective clients by type (retirement plan rollovers continue to be the largest pool), by size (mass affluent are often overlooked), gender (women are more inclined to rely on financial advisors than men), and ethnicity (there are changing dynamics in minority segments of the US population). Amongst other facts, the research showed that:

  • Beyond age, the most obvious way to segment consumers is by wealth; the sweet spots seems to be the 24 million households that have $100,000-$1 million (28% of total US investable assets) and the 4.3 million households that have $1 -$5 million of investable assets (50% of total US investable assets). Full-service brokerage firms (and all other financial advisors) have been desperately trying to push their brokers up market
  • Private business owners (39%), corporate executives (28%), and professional occupations (25%) are the key sources of wealth
  • Retirement plan rollovers (44%) and other sources of new money (19%) account for two-thirds of the incremental assets being captured by the fast growing fee-only financial advisors market
  • Wealth is concentrated primarily on the coasts; California now has 859,000 $1 million+ households; it is followed by Florida (265,000), Texas (204,000), New York (185,000), New Jersey (175,000), Illinois (172,000), Massachusetts (120,000), and Virginia (107,000)
  • Other states have far fewer affluent households, such as Wyoming (755), South Dakota (1,085) and North Dakota (1,620)
  • Other unique segments exist as well; for instance traditional family structures are blurring; there are now 5.5 million unmarried couple households. Similarly, women heads of households present another unique segment opportunity because they are more likely to rely entirely on the advice of financial advisors (42% versus 33% of men). And Asian Americans have passed African Americans as the largest minority population (13%)
  • A key opportunity for all types of financial advisors is to break out of the heavy reliance upon client referrals (54% even amongst the fastest growing fee-only financial advisors segment)
  • Niche marketing oriented firms seem to be most successful in marketing, with 80% of the Hanson McClain Retirement Network financial advisors, for example, marketing more than five hours per week
  • Tiburon's research suggests that segment marketing has three clear benefits, including an increased flow of referrals, decreased competition & better close rates, and lower costs to serve clients

After Mr. Clark’s opening presentation, a variety of case examples were discussed:

  • John Tyers (Senior Managing Director, Broker/Dealer Clearing & Investment Advisor Services, The Bear Stearns Companies) suggested that the wirehouse firms are doing a much better job of marketing because of their shift to fee-based compensation and their huge investments in technology and infrastructure
  • Art Lutschaunig (President, Morningstar Investment Services, Morningstar) found that many of his firm's financial advisor clients are focused on financial planning which naturally lends itself to building their businesses through referrals. He suggested that, “there is more emphasis on production when looking at the broker/dealer or independent rep channels”
  • John Iachello (Chief Operating Officer, Pershing Advisor Solutions, Pershing, The Bank of New York Mellon Corporation) mentioned that Pershing is providing marketing people to, “consult with larger clients to assist in marketing, public relations, and the creation of collateral materials”
  • Jon Parker (President, Western Region, Boston Private Financial Holdings) mentioned that, “the principals of the wealth management firms that his firm has recently acquired often share marketing ideas on and in turn have increased their growth rates”
  • Nick Stuller (President, Discovery Database, The Financial Information Group) expressed that his firm is just rolling out a program for financial advisors that offers direct mail, email marketing, public relations, and marketing advice”
  • However, the most colorful example came when Pat McClain (Senior Financial Advisor, Hanson McClain) chimed in to support Tiburon’s view about the success of target marketing, saying that, “my dog with a pen in his mouth could sell 80% of what I offer. Focusing on a specific client (AT&T employees) has been our best marketing decision”
  • Against that backdrop of increasing opportunity, however the primary finding amongst the participants was the heavy reliance on passive client referrals as the primary strategy for developing new business. Mr. Lydon noted that, "a wide variety of sales & marketing strategies exist but most financial advisors do nothing." Most of the attendees left the break-out session shaking their heads over the opportunities they’re not pursuing, and with a fresh resolve to take more strategic and focused actions consistent with the best practices gleaned from the research, and a few of their more proactive peers
  • Mr. Roame summarized that, "with a competitive playing field crowded with over 400,000 financial advisors, marketing through referrals, advertising & public relations, focused target & niche marketing, seminars & direct marketing, and other marketing strategies will be key to success. Numerous opportunities exist; execution is the key"

Tiburon CEO Summit Planning Committee members Tif Joyce (President, Joyce Financial Management) and Kirk Michie (Managing Director, Lenox Advisors) facilitate a break-out session at Tiburon CEO Summit XII

Financial Advisor Technology

Tom Lydon (President, Global Trends Investments) and Kirk Michie (Managing Director, Lenox Advisors) facilitated a discussion on recent innovations in technology. Mr. Lydon opened the session by providing highlights of the conclusions from Tiburon’s technology developments research report. Amongst other facts, the research showed that:

  • Financial advisor technology can be organized and considered in eight categories, including sales-enabling technology, financial planning software, asset allocation software, portfolio management software, account aggregation software, trade order management systems, data download software, data & research services, and contact management software; all of these technologies are combined in a handful of financial advisor workstation offerings
  • The most often used financial advisor technologies by the fast growing independent rep market are data & research services (76%), financial planning software (68%), and contact management software (64%)
  • Data & research services have evolved from the days of desktop predominance to the proliferation of web research. However, Yahoo is still the second most widely used data & research service (37%) to Morningstar (67%). Morningstar is also the dominant data & research service used by fee-only financial advisors (76%)
  • Financial planning software grew out of the proliferation of financial planning workbooks, and evolved through a focus on comprehensive programs to modular solutions. There are now 57 financial planning software programs on the market; the most popular financial planning software programs are Morningstar (61%), Financial Profiles (25%), and Brentmark (14%) amongst independent reps, and Morningstar (68%), Quicken (29%), and custom or proprietary (20%) amongst fee-only financial advisors, but that said most financial advisors (91%) think that their financial planning software is just ok or poor
  • Contact management software for financial advisors has evolved from the days of generic software use to programs customized for financial advisors. There are now about twenty contact management software programs for financial advisors, with both pros and cons for custom programs, and the most popular being Act (29%) and ProTracker (24%) for independent reps, and Outlook (22%) and Act (20%) for fee-only financial advisors
  • Portfolio management software has evolved from the days of tools development to be the key technology for fee-only financial advisors. The 32 portfolio management software products include leaders such as Advent’s Axys, The Charles Schwab Corporation’s Portfolio Center, and db Cams+. Although none is used widely, db Cams+ is the most popular portfolio management software product utilized by independent reps. Meanwhile, Portfolio Center is the most popular portfolio management software (33%) amongst fee-only financial advisors, while Advent is most popular amongst larger financial advisors (25% overall)

After Mr. Lydon’s opening comments, a series of case studies were discussed, with evolution, preferences, & challenges around incompatible products driving a lively session.

  • John Iachello (Chief Operating Officer, Pershing Advisor Solutions, Pershing, The Bank of New York Mellon Corporation) discussed the difference between, “what custodians or broker/dealers can provide and what solutions are more accurately the responsibility of the financial advisors.” Mike DiGirolamo (Managing Director, Investment Advisors Division, Raymond James Financial Services, Raymond James) pushed back a bit on Mr. Iachello’s comments by discussing, “a seemless solution on the financial advisors’ desktop at Raymond James,” almost setting up a point to be made by Chris Boruff (President, Advisor Business, Morningstar)
  • The participants included a number of technology providers, including Mr. Boruff whose Advisor Workstation is in development towards, “providing an end-to-end solution” to the challenges faced by truly independent financial advisors. Knowledge, inclination, and the lack of financial resources were recurring themes, as well difficulties with integration
  • In closing, Mr. Michie challenged the group from his role as a financial advisor to provide purely independent best in class solutions, and Allison Couch (CEO, The Financial Services Network (FSN)) chimed in, saying that, “if all that is available, somebody please tell me because I have 200 financial advisors there who want it.” Bryce James (CEO, Smart Portfolios) dimensioned a number of challenges and road blocks for financial advisors, but in the end provided some hope by saying that, “tons of companies are developing tools to integrate all of these products and solutions.” However, regardless of products in development, Mr. Iachello summed up the persistent challenge related to technology by saying that, “best of breed is going to change in six months anyway”
  • Mr. Roame encouraged the group to, “consider technology as one of the two driving factors of success in financial advisory businesses”

Financial Advisor Mergers & Acquisitions

Tif Joyce (President, Joyce Financial Management) and Tom Lydon (President, Global Trends Investments) facilitated a discussion on mergers & acquisitions. Mr. Lydon opened the session presenting highlights of Tiburon’s recently released research report on succession planning, firm valuations, & the growing acquisition market for financial advisors. Amongst other facts, the research showed that:

  • Half of all independent financial advisors (50%) intend to sell their businesses upon retirement, with selling to an existing partner or employee being the most popular planned strategy (32%)
  • Six types of buyers have emerged for financial advisor businesses, including financial buyers, strategic buyers, and competitors, employees, and others
  • The most successful acquirer to date has been National Financial Partners, which is a nearing 200 acquisitions to date (184)
  • Amazingly, three-quarters (71%) of independent financial advisors still believe that a revenue multiple is the most logical valuation method (assuming that the business will be ongoing, Tiburon believes that discounted cash flows is the only logical way to value firms)
  • Fee-only financial advisor businesses have been selling for twice the value of commission-based businesses
  • There is still a great disparity between the number of listing buyers and sellers, and over three-quarters (84%) of listing sellers have less than $50 million assets under management

After Mr. Joyce’s opening comments, a series of case studies were discussed:

  • Peter Bain (Senior Executive Vice President, US Asset Management, Legg Mason) and Steve Lockshin (CEO, Lydian Wealth Management, Lydian Trust Company) pointed out that buying businesses and buying practices are much different strategies. Mr. Bain stated that, “Legg Mason will never buy a firm where it is the founder’s exit strategy.” Most buyers want to buy firms that are going to continue to grow
  • Evan Simonoff (Editor-in-Chief, Financial Advisor Magazine, Charter Financial Publishing Network) pointed out that Business Transitions recently said that, “there were 24 buyers for every firm for sale, resulting in multiples that have grown to levels we have never seen before”
  • Jeffrey Dunham (CEO, Dunham & Associates Investment Counsel) and Keith Gregg (Executive Vice President, Sales, Dunham & Associates Investment Counsel) mentioned that they are in the process of purchasing a mutual fund company this year. Mr. Gregg also noted that, “two venture firms have been created to acquire financial advisors, with each commanding $250 million”
  • As a case example, Mr. Joyce outlined his business structure and lifestyle choices. The attendees in the room asked him personal questions about his succession plan as his profile is typical of a medium size firm
  • Ken Fisher (CEO, Fisher Investments) said that “there are social and psychological issues involved in selling a business or practice.” And Steve Lockshin (CEO, Lydian Wealth Management, Lydian Trust Company) added that, “ego is also a large component as financial advisors are primarily entrepreneurial”
  • Interestingly, little discussion in the session focused on either price or whether the number of deals actually done merits all of the attention this area seems to generate. Tiburon’s recent findings indicate that there are a large number of potential buyers, very few sellers, and fewer still with meaningful levels of assets or revenues. Mr. Roame concluded that, "this is a very small market compared to the 120,000+ independent financial advisory firms"

Tiburon CEO Summit XI: October 18-19, 2006

Tiburon CEO Summit XI was held October 18-19, 2006 in San Francisco, CA. The Summit started at 8:00am on Wednesday, October 18, included a networking dinner that evening in Tiburon, & concluded at 2:00pm on Thursday, October 19. Over 75 senior industry executives & media representatives took two days out of their busy schedules to participate. Chip Roame (Managing Principal of Tiburon Strategic Advisors), David Carroll (President, Capital Management Group, Wachovia Corporation), Ken Fisher (CEO, Fisher Investments), Lee Kranefuss (CEO, Intermediary & Exchange Traded Funds Group, Barclays Global Investors, Barclays), Andrew Rudd (CEO, Advisor Software & Former CEO, Barra), & Myron Scholes (Professor, Stanford; Chairman, Platinum Grove Asset Management; & Winner, 1997 Nobel Prize for Economics) made general session presentations. Other general session panels included a consumers panel, an advisors panel, a strategic discussion of the investment management market, & a panel featuring the leaders of the largest RIA custodian firms.

Attendees at Tiburon CEO Summit XI held October 18-19, 2006 in San Francisco, CA

Attendees

Tiburon CEO Summit XI had 58 Tiburon client attendees, including:

  • Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors)
  • Vijay Advani (Executive Vice President, Global Advisor Services, Franklin Templeton Investments)
  • Julie Allecta (Partner, Paul, Hastings, Janofsky, & Walker)
  • Andy Arenberg (Managing Director, Barclays Global Investors, Barclays)
  • Tim Armour (Managing Director, Strategic Relationships & Business Development, Morningstar)
  • Chuck Baldiswieler (Group Managing Director, TCW Advisor Group & Private Client Services, Trust Company of the West (TCW), Societe Generale)
  • Jud Bergman (CEO, Envestnet Asset Management)
  • Tom Bradley (President, TD Ameritrade Institutional Services, TD Ameritrade, TD Bank Financial Group)
  • Kurt Brouwer (CEO, Brouwer & Janachowski)
  • David Carroll (President, Capital Management Group, Wachovia Corporation)
  • Larry Chambers (Contributing Editor, Investment Advisor, Wicks Business Information)
  • Amit Choudhury (Managing Principal, Pinnacle Partners)
  • Dennis Clark (CEO, Advisor Partners)
  • Craig Cloyed (President, Calvert Distributors, Calvert, Unifi Mutual Holding Company)
  • Ron Cordes (Chairman, Asset Mark Investment Services, Genworth Financial Asset Management, Genworth Financial)
  • Jeffrey Dunham (CEO, Dunham & Associates Investment Counsel)
  • Nicole Farrar (Associate, Paul, Hastings, Jafosky, & Walker)
  • Ken Fisher (CEO, Fisher Investments)
  • Rob Foregger (Chief Strategy Officer, Ever Bank Financial)
  • Jonathan Foster (CEO, E*Trade Wealth Management, E*Trade Financial)
  • Nick Georgis (Managing Director, USD Marketing & Strategy, Russell Investment Group, Northwestern Mutual)
  • Keith Gregg (Executive Vice President, Sales, Dunham & Associates Investment Counsel)
  • Scott Hanson (CEO, Hanson McClain)
  • Bill Harris (Chairman, My Vest Corporation)
  • John Hurley (President, Associated Securities, Pacific Life Insurance Company)
  • John Iachello (Chief Operating Officer, Pershing Advisor Solutions, Pershing, Bank of New York)
  • Tif Joyce (President, Joyce Financial Management)
  • Jeff Kanaly (Vice Chairman, Kanaly Trust Company)
  • Lee Kranefuss (CEO, Intermediary Investor Business, Barclays Global Investors, Barclays)
  • Jeff Lancaster (Managing Principal, Bingham, Osborn, & Scarborough, Boston Private Financial Holdings)
  • Stephen Langlois (Senior Vice President, Research, LPL Financial Services)
  • Tom Lydon (President, Global Trends Investments)
  • Lori Medlen (President, Financial Research Associates)
  • Randy Merk (Executive Vice President, Schwab Financial Products, The Charles Schwab Corporation)
  • Kirk Michie (Managing Director, Lenox Advisors)
  • Karl Mills (President, Jurika, Mills, & Keifer)
  • Jim Minnick (President, Lovell Minnick Partners)
  • Greg Pacholski (CEO, Albridge Solutions)
  • Victor Palmieri (Vice Chairman, Mullin TBG)
  • Purna Pareek (CEO, Advice America)
  • Dave Petersen (President, Financial Services Advisory)
  • Mitch Politzer (CEO, First Ameritas Life Insurance Company, Unifi Mutual Holding Company)
  • Andy Putterman (President, Fortigent, Lydian Trust Company)
  • Neal Ringquist (President, Advisor Software)
  • Chuck Robinson (Senior Vice President, Investment Products & Services, Northwestern Mutual)
  • Andrew Rudd (CEO, Advisor Software)
  • Myron Scholes (Professor, Stanford University)
  • Skip Schweiss (Executive Vice President, Fiserv Investment Support Services, Fiserv)
  • David Smith (Group Publisher, Financial Advisor Magazine, Charter Financial Publishing Network)
  • Bob Smoke (CEO, Seton-Smoke Capital Management)
  • Burnie Sparks (President, Client Group, Baliard)
  • Alan Spiegelman (Wealth Management Advisor, Northwestern Mutual)
  • Allen Thorpe (Managing Director, Hellman & Friedman)
  • Frank Trotter (President, Ever Bank Direct, Ever Bank Financial)
  • Ellen Turf (CEO, National Association of Personal Financial Advisors)
  • John Tyers (Managing Director, Broker/Dealer Clearing & Investment Advisor Services, The Bear Stearns Companies)
  • Jerry Wagner (CEO, Flexible Plan Investments)
  • John Watts (Vice Chairman, BNP Paribas Asset Management, BNP Paribas)

Media Representatives

Tiburon CEO Summit XI had six Tiburon select media attendees, including:

  • Evan Cooper (Director, Wealth Management News, Thomson Financial, Thomson Corporation)
  • Gavin Daly (Executive Editor, Board IQ, Agenda, & Base & Bonus, Money-Media)
  • Chris Larson (Associate Editor, Fund Fire, Money-Media)
  • Janet Levaux (Managing Editor; Research; Highline Media)
  • Evan Simonoff (Editor-in-Chief, Financial Advisor Magazine, Charter Financial Publishing Network)
  • Brooke Southall (Reporter, Investment News, Crain Communications)

Also in attendance for Tiburon CEO Summit XII were Tiburon employees Brian Cotter (Marketing Manager) & Chuck Roame (Part-Time Database Manager).

Tiburon Managing Principal Chip Roame kicks off Tiburon CEO Summit XI with the firm's signature Future of Advice presentation
Opening Keynote Presentation:
Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors)

Tiburon CEO Summit XI kicked off with a keynote presentation by Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors). Chip welcomed the attendees, gave an overview of Tiburon, and addressed the state of the financial services industry, challenging the group with a long list of current industry issues to consider and discuss.

Tiburon Strategic Advisors

In updating the group of clients on Tiburon's activities, Mr. Roame noted that, "Tiburon has positioned itself uniquely as a market research & strategy consulting firm; the firm's services include a series of research reports, conference speeches, market seminars, and market research & strategy consulting services, with the later two accounting for more than two-thirds of Tiburon's revenues." The firm has served almost 300 corporate clients (75 of which were represented at the CEO Summit), and completed almost 900 projects since its founding in 1998, and today, the firm's knowledge base includes mutual funds distribution, separately managed account programs, alternative investments, wealth management services, insurance products, banking services, the fee-only financial advisor market, the CPA firm market, the family office market, and various international markets.

State of the Financial Services Industry

After sharing the short update on Tiburon, Mr. Roame discussed the state of the financial services industry broadly, leveraging and introducing the CEO Summit agenda. He focused on the key issues that would likely be addressed by the general session guest speakers, the topics that he hoped would be addressed by the general session panel discussions, and the questions that he suggested be debated in the break-out sessions. Specifically, Mr. Roame started by suggesting that five recent news stories and five recent Tiburon research findings be discussed:

Five Recent News Stories

  • Two full-service brokerage firms (Merrill Lynch & Smith Barney) recently exited the investment management business, signaling a perceived conflict of interest, while other firms, including that led by guest presenter David Carroll (President, Capital Management Group, Wachovia Corporation), appear to building their investment management capabilities
  • Two leading load mutual fund firms are for sale, initially suggesting challenges in the old investment management models, but possibly being more related to investment performance and talent retention issues
  • Product proliferation continues in the mutual funds, exchange traded funds, & hedge fund industries, suggesting opportunities for consolidation (He noted that there are now more hedge funds than mutual funds!)
  • Bank of America has almost caught Citigroup in terms of market capitalization, signaling the power of retail distribution and the stock market's reward for building steady fee-oriented retail businesses
  • Venture capital & technology has entered round two (however Mr. Roame noted that little ever changes in technology vendor market shares in financial services, with long-dominant competitors like Thomson's Beta, Check Free's APL, and Advent's Axys continuing to dominate their respective sub-markets)

Five Recent Tiburon Research Findings

  • Fidelity Investments passed Merrill Lynch as the largest financial services firm based on client assets (over $1.5 trillion!), signaling the growth in fast growing business models such as no-load funds, discount brokerage, independent broker/dealers (clearing), RIAs (custody), and 401k plans
  • Data for separately managed accounts & other fee-account programs continues to be miscalculated, leaving out the fee-only financial advisor (RIA), bank trust, and true separate account businesses, leading to inaccurate conclusions on the growth of various products and the perceived dominance of separately managed accounts (by calculating correctly, Mr. Roame argued that the mutual fund wrap account and broker wrap account markets may actually be larger than the separately managed accounts market)
  • The number of independent reps passed that of wirehouse reps (80,000 versus 70,000), suggesting the power of independence (although he also drew attendees attention to the lower average assets under administration for independent reps $12 million versus $70 million for the average wirehouse broker)
  • Online brokerage firms are continuing to gain share in consumer investable assets, suggesting continued success in client acquisition and even client retention
  • International markets continue to be sexy but small; while not being anti-international, Mr. Roame cautioned the group simply to keep perspective, offering examples such as the United Kingdom having similar investable assets to those in California and Canada having similar investable assets to those in Pennsylvania

Subsequently, Mr. Roame offered up challenging questions to be raised in each of the nine break-out sessions:

  • Markets Break-Out Session: Consumer Wealth, Liquefaction, & the Retirement Income Challenge
    • Does the US face a major savings crisis or not?
    • Is the savings rate accurately counted (and is this relevant)?
    • Will the savings rate increase as baby boomers age?
    • Will the wealth transfer from baby boomers’ parents to baby boomers be substantial?
    • Will the liquefaction bail out most baby boomers?
    • Do IRA rollovers present the biggest opportunity for most financial advisors (or are most rollovers too small)?
    • How will the industry address boomers' retirement income need – annuities, reverse mortgages, etc.?
  • Products Break-Out Session: Mutual Funds & Exchange Traded Funds
    • Are mutual funds dead (or are they America’s core financial product)?
    • Do the pending sales of MFS & Putnam represent the death of the traditional model (or do they represent attention to poor investment performance or the inability to retain investment talent)?
    • Does the concentration of mutual fund flows in four-to-six mutual fund companies threaten small mutual fund companies?
    • Is the centralization of investment selection (e.g., wrap programs) changing the mutual funds game?
    • Are target date mutual funds (especially in 401K plans) changing the mutual funds game?
    • Will performance fees become the new pricing mechanism?
    • Is indexing slowly taking over the industry?
    • Will the fast growing segments of independent reps and fee-only financial advisors shift their product use away from mutual funds?
    • Will exchange traded funds threaten mutual funds?
    • Will actively managed exchange traded funds be approved anytime soon (and will they make the market explode in size)?
    • Will Barclays be able to maintain its dominant market share in the growing ETFs market?

  • Products Break-Out Session: Separately Managed Accounts & Other Fee-Account Programs
    • Have fee-accounts become the dominant model at the wirehouses?
    • Are fee-accounts concentrated in the wirehouses or are the wirehouses actually pretty small players relative to fee-only financial advisors, bank trust departments, and money managers?
    • Will separately managed accounts as a product continue to dominate the press (and maybe the assets)?
    • Will fee-only financial advisors shift their product use from mutual funds to separately managed accounts (or will they go in mass to exchange traded funds instead)?
    • Will the fast growing independent rep market increase its use of fee-accounts (or is its average client at $142,000 simply too small)?
    • Will multiple style portfolios open up the use of separate accounts to part-time investments channels like banks, CPAs, and insurance agents?
    • Aren’t unified managed accounts the obvious conclusion (or even better yet, unified managed households)?
    • Will turnkey asset management programs gain great share of assets as more firms look to outsource administrative aspects?
    • Will money managers see their margins squeezed, leading to exits from some top performing managers?

  • Products Break-Out Session: Hedge Funds, Venture Capital & Private Equity, Real Estate, & Other Alternative Investments
    • Will hedge fund products be utilized by increasing numbers of high net worth and moderate net worth households?
    • Will the real growth in hedge funds come from non-taxable institutional investors with unlimited time horizons?
    • Will the aggressive investment strategies of some hedge funds and the product proliferation lead to continual blow ups?
    • Will the blow ups (and other scandals) hinder industry growth?
    • Which investment strategies (equity, arbitrage) will gather substantial consumer assets in the next decade?
    • Will hedge fund strategies packaged as mutual fund products ultimately win?
    • Do multi-strategy multi-manager hedge funds-of-funds provide diversification (or after taxes & fees, are their average returns poor)?
    • What firm will clean up hedge funds data (and how misleading is it today)?
    • Are venture capital & private equity potentially the most useful alternative asset classes & will they grow rapidly?
    • Will high net worth households gain access to top tier venture capital & private equity funds?
    • Does real estate need to be better packaged (or are Americans already overexposed to real estate)?
  • Advisors Break-Out Session: Sales & Marketing
    • Should financial advisors target the high net worth market ($1 million+) or stay focused on more moderate net worth households ($100,000-$1 million)?
    • Will various sources of the liquefaction of baby boomer wealth (rollovers, business sales, house downsizing) dominate available investable assets?
    • Are baby boomers in mass receiving substantial wealth transfers from their parents?
    • Are financial advisors too reliant on passive client referrals?
    • What are some strategies for proactively seeking client referrals?
    • Do financial advisors invest too heavily in seeking professional referrals (and will more of those professionals soon be their competitors)?
    • Do any direct marketing strategies work (cold calling, direct mail, internet & traditional advertising, seminars)?
    • Why do so few advisors rely on public relations campaigns (and don’t they have substantial upside)?
    • Why do so few advisors rely on target market programs (and don’t they have substantial upside)?

  • Advisors Break-Out Session: Benchmarking & Best Practices
    • How can profitability be increased?
    • Is there evidence that more partners leads to more profits (specifically more profits per partner)?
    • Is there economic value in adding employees?
    • Why do so few advisors broadly leverage technology?
    • Is outsourcing growing?
    • Why are client satisfaction surveys used so infrequently?
    • Are financial advisors managing correctly for profits (or are some stuck on profit margins)?

  • Advisors Break-Out Session: Mergers & Acquisitions
    • Is there actually any substantial number of financial advisory firms being sold now?
    • Is there an equal number of buyers and sellers?
    • Are the available businesses typically of substantial size?
    • Are financial advisors finally taking succession planning seriously?
    • Will many financial advisors never retire (die with their boots on)?
    • Will most deals continue to be internal deals at low valuations?
    • Will larger fee-only financial advisors find secondary markets for their firms at banks and CPA firms?
    • How successful have the roll-ups (National Financial Partners), banks (Silicon Valley Bank), and CPA firms (Moss Adams) been as acquirers?
    • Who are the new entrants with interesting models (Fisher Investments, Boston Private Financial Holdings, Focus Financial Partners)?
    • Why is there so much debate regarding valuation methods (isn’t discounted cash flows the only logical way to value any ongoing concern)?
    • Will valuations decline as more baby boomer advisors reach retirement age?
  • Markets Break-Out Session: Captive Advisors (Brokers, Bankers, & Insurance Agents)
    • The sales forces of the wirehouses (Merrill Lynch), captive financial planning firms (Ameriprise Financial), and insurance companies (Northwestern Mutual) have generally not grown over the past five or seven years; is this an intentional focus on quality over quantity?
    • Morgan Stanley executive James Gorman boldly commented at a recent SIA meeting regarding no longer tolerating low-end producers; does this represent the industry’s overarching view?
    • Instead of quantity, is the industry’s focus one of shifting to high net worth consumers, fee-accounts, & wealth management services?
    • Is Morgan Stanley retail on the block (will the firm just maintain the old Morgan Stanley high net worth business)?
    • As the independent advisor channels have been outgrowing the captive advisor channels, is the right response the multi-model offerings of Wachovia Corporation, Raymond James, and Ameriprise Financial?
    • Are the banks (and even H&R Block) attracting more successful advisors?
    • Can Wachovia’s localized wealth management model revolutionize the world?
    • Are the insurance companies the likely winners in the market for retirement income products and broader wealth management services?

  • Markets Break-Out Session: Independent Advisors (Independent Reps & Fee-Only Financial Advisors)
    • The number of independent advisors (80,000 independent reps & 20,000 fee-only financial advisors) has now far outdistanced the number of wirehouse brokers (70,000); is independent the future?
    • Because of low production, independent advisors account for just 1/3 of the assets of the wirehouses; will this change?
    • Independent reps are growing in numbers but fee-only financial advisors are growing much faster in assets under management; what gives?
    • Is the slowed flow in numbers into the fee-only financial advisor market indicative of the future?
    • With its 98% payouts and high service levels, is LPL going to run away with the independent rep market (and have a hugely successful IPO)?
    • Although numerous new competitors have entered the custody business, Charles Schwab & Company still retains asset dominance ($468 billion); will any firm be a real challenger?
    • Will future flows into the independent advisor markets be hindered because of the current slow growth of the captive advisor channels (e.g., wirehouses, captive financial planning firms, insurance agents)?

The CEO-level attendees really enjoyed Mr. Roame's opening remarks and agenda setting; Dave Petersen (President, Financial Services Advisory) said that, "Chip's take was excellent. It set the stage for our industry by asking insightful questions." Dennis Clark (CEO, Advisor Partners) added that, "Chip is the master of getting everyone focused on the right questions."

Guest Presentations

Aside from Mr. Roame's opening keynote presentation, five guest presentations anchored the CEO Summit agenda:

Guest Speaker David Carroll from Wachovia Corporation addressed the multi-line businesses of Wachovia Securities and Evergreen Investments that he leads

David Carroll (President, Capital Management Group, Wachovia Corporation)
David Carroll is President of Wachovia's Capital Management Group, which includes three core businesses: Retail Brokerage (Wachovia Securities), Asset Management (Evergreen Investments), and Retirement & Investment Products. Mr. Carroll joined Wachovia in 1981 and has subsequently served in many capacities, including serving as the head of Corporate Support Services, Wachovia Mortgage, & Corporate Marketing, as well as Chief eCommerce & Technology Officer, and President of First Union Florida. Mr. Carroll was also in charge of merger integration during the historic Wachovia and First Union merger.

Mr. Carroll's perspective is unique in that he manages both a manufacturing operation (Evergreen Investments) and a distribution operation (Wachovia Securities), the later of which has four distinct business models. Collectively these businesses represent 10,514 financial advisors, $704 billion assets under administration, $256 billion of assets under management, over $2.0 billion in revenues, and $673 million of earnings. In his comments, Mr. Carroll outlined Wachovia's strategies in both brokerage and investment management, addressing the key timely industry topics laid out by Mr. Roame and saying that, “a separately branded Evergreen will do fine.” He further said that, “Putnam and MFS may have been on the block because firms have to perform when they are parts of public companies.” And finally Mr. Carroll observed that, “Merrill Lynch may have had to do something because it could not get its funds sold at Smith Barney and other broker/dealers.” However he said, “Merrill Lynch hardly distanced itself from its investment management firm with the BlackRock transaction, as it still owns a huge share.” Going beyond Mr. Roame's top news stories, Mr. Carroll also said that his business units were put together because Wachovia Corporation believes that product packaging is at least as important as product manufacturing.

Mr. Carroll also shared dozens of other useful facts and opinions about all three of his businesses; he started with the brokerage business, including his firm's business unit Wachovia Securities:

  • Wachovia Securities is made up of 70-80 brokerage firms that have been acquired
  • Since its Prudential Securities acquisition, Wachovia Securities is the third largest retail brokerage firm with 10,514 financial advisors in 49 states, $704 billion of assets under administration, and $1.2 billion of net revenues
  • The firm hopes to combine the regional firm culture with wirehouse capabilities
  • The firm has a strong focus on the financial advisor-client relationship
  • Wachovia Securities is focused on increasing financial advisor productivity, amongst other issues
  • The firm is focused on helping its brokers capture managed assets, with $122 billion today
  • Wachovia Securities is hoping to widely deploy its Envision financial planning program, Which it believes equips financial advisors to understand and address clients' life aspirations
  • Access to Wachovia Bank’s core banking products allows Wachovia Securities financial advisors to meet a larger set of their clients’ needs
  • Wachovia offers three financial advisor platforms, including its traditional private client group (5,966 financial advisors, $415 billion assets under administration), its investment services group (bank brokers)(3,785 financial advisors, $125 billion assets under administration), and its independent brokerage group (763 financial advisors & 123 correspondent firms, $141 billion assets under administration)
  • The bank broker model still has lots of potential, as it can extend brokerage capabilities to bank customers
  • Wachovia Securities' multi-platform model recently allowed captive employee advisors to move to its independent platform
  • There is room at Wachovia Corporation for both private banking and brokerage offerings (Wachovia's private bank is the fourth largest wealth manager in the US) with 39,000 clients and $68 billion of assets under management

Mr. Carroll also addressed the money management business, including his firm's business Evergreen Investments:

  • Evergreen Investments is the 21st largest investment management firm and it seeks to offer diversified products across the equity, fixed income, and short-term asset classes
  • Evergreen’s $256 billion of assets under management include $103 billion of institutional assets, $100 billion of mutual fund & variable annuity assets, and $53 billion of high net worth assets from its wealth management business
  • Evergreen Investments' successes have varied by market; in the institutional market, 70% of its assets under management are in its fixed income strategies, while only 23% of its mutual fund & variable annuity assets and 26% of its high net worth client assets are the same (the later having larger equity and/or money market components)
  • The broader Wachovia Corporation is focused on growing its investment management business (again, unlike Merrill Lynch and Smith Barney that exited)
  • Along with the Tattersall Group, JL Kaplan Associates, and Golden Capital Management, Evergreen Investments acquired Met West Capital Management in 2004; this is one of the largest third-party lending firms with $60 billion of securities on loan
  • Lots of alternative investment firms are being shopped; Mr. Carroll noted that his firm has looked at "hundreds"
  • Acquisitions of money management firms are difficult due to high multiples, and ultimately social issues, such as the ultimate CEO and headquarters location, drive most merger & acquisitions transactions

And finally Mr. Carroll noted that Wachovia had sought an increased emphasis on the retirement business by recently bundling various business under his leadership through its retirement & investment products division. The firm sees retirement as the single largest retail growth opportunity in personal financial services:

  • Wachovia Corporation's retirement & investment products division is a manufacturer and distributor of key retirement products, including IRAs, 401k plans, and annuities
  • The firm acquired Ameriprise’s defined contribution record keeping business earlier this year, giving it $98 billion in retirement plan assets under administration and 2.1 million plan participants, and this made the firm the ninth largest manager of institutional retirement plans in this consolidating industry
  • Wachovia corporation has $145 billion in IRA assets, making it #6 in the US
  • Wachovia is the #1 seller of annuities in the US, with $5.9 billion in annual annuity premium sales

Mr. Carroll's comments were well received; Dave Petersen (President, Financial Services Advisory) said that, "David Carroll is an innovative mover & shaker in our industry; his basic message was lead, follow, or get out of the way." Kirk Michie (Managing Director, Lenox Advisors) said that, "the magnitude of Wachovia Corporation's assets is stunning." After listening to his comments, Tiburon's Managing Principal Chip Roame stated that, "Wachovia really seems to grasp the market opportunity." Tiburon has recently completed several projects for Wachovia Corporation and Mr. Carroll was introduced by Chip Roame (Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors).

Guest Speaker Ken Fisher from Fisher Investments kept everyone on their toes with his unconventional and amazingly successful views regarding building investment firms

Ken Fisher (CEO, Fisher Investments)

Ken Fisher is CEO of Fisher Investments, a firm he founded thirty years ago. He is best known for his use of both direct mail and advertising, as well as his portfolio strategy investment column in Forbes magazine. His twenty-two year tenure at Forbes makes him the fifth longest running columnist in the magazine's eighty year history. He was also recently named to the Forbes 400 list as the 320th wealthiest American.

Mr. Fisher has been an innovator. His theoretical work in the early 1970s yielded a tool known as the price-to-sales ratio, now a core element of modern financial curriculum. In the 1980s, he helped create a school of equity style management called domestic small cap value equity, now a major category for institutional and retail investors. Mr. Fisher has also written three major finance books, including the 1984 best seller Super Stocks; his recent research focuses on the emerging field of behavioral finance.

Obvious to all of our mailboxes has been Mr. Fisher's unique direct mail strategy, and this has led to an 850 employee, 17,000 client, and $32 billion vertically-integrated operation, making it one of the largest founder run investment management firms. Mr. Fisher's presentation, "Challenging Conventional Wisdom", outlined some of Fisher Investments' unique strategies, including formal hiring discrimination against MBAs and using junk mail as a primary marketing strategy. Said simply, Mr. Fisher refuses conventional thoughts regarding best practices, personal service relationships, and the idea that firms must choose between being distributors and manufacturers.

Mr. Fisher made dozens of interesting points, challenging conventional wisdom and keeping attendees captivated:

  • Fisher Investments gathers $400 million of net new assets per month (yes, per month!); if it were a mutual fund company, this would make it the sixteenth largest gatherer of assets
  • For more perspective, only 23 (out of 793) mutual fund companies recently showed positive net asset flows
  • Fisher Investments is a direct seller; the firm does not participate in indirect sales (in other words, it participates in no separately managed account programs)