Context Setting

Tiburon Strategic Advisors, a market research & strategy consulting firm serving a wide variety of financial institutions and investment managers, hosts a series of client-only CEO conferences called the Tiburon CEO Summits. Tiburon CEO Summit XVI was held this week in New York, NY. Over 125 senior industry executives took two days out of their busy schedules to participate in four general session panel discussions, which included a current events panel as well as the usual Tiburon CEO Summits' general session panel discussions (Ask the Consumers, Ask the Advisors, & Ask the Gatekeepers). Below are highlights:

Tiburon CEO Summit XVI Current Events Panel
Facilitated by Chip Roame
(Managing Principal, Tiburon Strategic Advisors)
Current Events Panel

Tiburon CEO Summit XVI included a special general session panel discussion on the credit crisis. The panel participants included Chuck Baldiswieler (Group Managing Director, Trust Company of the West (TCW)), John Cammack (Head, Third-Party Distribution, T. Rowe Price Group), Steve Deschenes (Chief Marketing Officer, Retirement Income Group, Mass Mutual Financial Group), John Murphy (Chairman, Oppenheimer Funds), & Steve Wallman (CEO, Foliofn), with Chip Roame leading a discussion that focused on current events.

  • Chip Roame opened the discussion by introducing the two objectives of the panel: firstly, to identify the causes & culprits of the credit crisis and secondly, to address how the world will change moving forward (government regulations, products, channels, and mergers & acquisitions activity moving forward):
    • Chuck Baldiswieler addressed on & off balance sheet leverage, derivatives, & lack of oversight as the main culprits driving the crisis, speaking of the 30 to 1 leverage common practices
    • John Cammack addressed ample credit, unbridled securitization, lax regulations, disingenuous rating agencies, and misperception of magnitude & globalization of systematic risk. Mr. Cammack blamed the belief system, and said that the entire financial services industry is at fault for allowing the culture to exist
    • Steve Deschenes pointed to the separation of loan underwriting from financial impact through securitization, speaking specifically to the lack of accountability that occurred with debt packaging
    • John Murphy spoke of freely available credit, government encouragement of Freddie Mac & Fannie Mae, living large (excess ownership & excess speculation), easy securitizations with AAA ratings, & lack of full collateralization
    • Steve Wallman addressed regulatory structures, compensation failures (rewarding returns, ignoring risk), regulatory implementation (when the hundred year flood happens everyone is wiped out), poor governmental responses to the initial housing, & then a broader credit crisis
  • Chip Roame thanked the panelists for answering the first question, then moved on to addressing how the world will change moving forward given the new regulatory environment
    • Chuck Baldiswieler talked about the mergers activity that he sees coming, which will involve more active management than blind investing. He addressed the potential for different types of investments that take advantage of the good assets that remain in the markets. He spoke of the equity promise having been broken, corporate pensions, public pensions, endowments & foundations dealing with liquidity issues, saying that RIAs and family offices will win, with long time horizons and self-regulation
    • John Cammack spoke to increased regulation to control risk, consolidation & better synchronization of oversight, suitability versus fiduciary standard resolution, and higher industry operating costs a byproduct of these steps. He spoke of a large share of US wealth moves into post work mode, fee-based pricing & open architecture trends to continue, ETFs & indexing growing share, and hedge fund industry consolidation. He also spoke of active management broadening to include absolute returns & overlays, and outcome based products eclipsing the role of standalone funds. He talked of a handful of mega distributors dominating, saying that an X factor is more open-access to consumers and financial advisors via the web
    • Steve Deschenes addressed increased regulation, higher taxes, and attempts to reduce the too big to fail issue. He mentioned that existing investment theory (modern portfolio theory) faces pressures with focus on absolute returns, diversification beyond equities, fixed income, & cash, guarantees being more valuable, and tax deferral being more valuable. He spoke of increased focus on transparency, lower fees, & independence. Finally, he mentioned that mergers & acquisitions activity will be based on new regulatory & financial rules
    • John Murphy first encouraged all the attendees in the audience to go to Washington DC to prevent adverse legislation to the industry, saying that government officials really want help in understanding what to do. He spoke of a systemic risk regulator with potentially excess 401K regulation. He spoke of a clearinghouse for credit & derivative instruments (with capital requirements, transparency, & real time reporting), and the implementation of money market working group recommendations. He said that financial advisor focus should be on rebuilding confidence with clients with more financial advisors choosing the independent route to move away from the damaged brands. He said that boutiques will continue to emerge as people leave larger firms and private equity will become major players
    • Steve Wallman talked about the unprecedented spending by government, saying that by saving the big brokerages and propping up the big banks, the government is ensuring that the behaviors that have dominated will likely continue. He talked of the tax burden and debt burden sure to hang over the country for years to come, and said that for all the spending that has occurred not much is actually happening (citing the AIG compensation blow-up that is now buried somewhere in the Senate)

    The panel was extremely frank and the net impression was that regulations are sure to affect the industry in ways that are yet to be determined. There was a common understanding that the culture that has dominated is absurd, and a unanimous opinion that trust between the consumers and the industry should be the main focus of each player in the industry.

    Tiburon CEO Summit XVI Ask the Consumers Panel
    Facilitated by Tif Joyce
    (President, Joyce Financial Management)
    Ask the Consumers Panel

    As has become the tradition at Tiburon CEO Summits, four real and unscripted consumers (Josh, Sonja, Maureen, Keith) were interviewed by facilitator Tif Joyce (President, Joyce Financial Management) for the Ask the Consumers panel. While each provided a unique point of view, a number of common views were shared.

    • Josh works for Cisco Systems and has been investing with his wife for years. He started his first financial advisor relationship based on a personal relationship he had out of high school. He is an active investor who values trust in his advisor more than anything else. He speaks to communications following mistakes, and says he will always go back to the expectations that were laid down in the beginning. He stopped investing his new assets with his first advisor because the management fees were too high, but fees are not the determining factor in how he values the people who invest for him. Part of the reason Josh moved along was because he couldn't be sure that his advisors could do much better than he could. Josh had a very bad experience with a leading national advisory firm where he had asked for a transfer of funds that was not executed, followed by a dip in the market where he lost money. The firm held several different positions as he pursued resolution, and as the decision was levvied against him, he decided not to ever work with that firm again. Josh then talked about what his ultimate goals are, and said they have nothing to do with how well his advisor is doing compared to his advisor's advisor buddy. Josh then addressed a question out of the audience inquiring how he made decisions to move from advisor to advisor, saying that he typically followed advice of his wife, his brother-in-law, his friends
    • Sonja started by saying that she emigrated from Sweden in 1973 with no financial experience at all. Her husband had five businesses that he ran in the United States, and as they traveled she began reading the New York Times financials section, becoming interested in stocks. After a sale of one of her family's companies, she researched the stocks she thought were worthwhile, and chose her investments in 1995. In 2001, her portfolio crashed with the stock market, and then her husband died in 2002. She had been responsible for many of the family's original trading practices, but as the complexity of her portfolio increased with trusts and new investment devices, Sonja decided it would be a good idea to seek professional help. She followed an advisor from Merrill Lynch to Morgan Stanley in 2007, and then, in 2008, when the markets collapsed, she stayed with him. She felt that her advisor was paralyzed as he continued to tell her not to sell, that she should buy Freddie Mac & Fannie Mae, and when she did that and her assets plummeted, she decided to move on. Sonja was asked by an audience member how she made her decision to switch advisors, and she too said that she listed to friends. Her decision was based on her desire to have a more diversified portfolio under the management of an advisor who had a broad view of investments
    • Keith is a financial services industry reporter who has invested for many years, and has chosen to delegate investment responsibilities to advisors based on his desire to maintain a little distance between his own professional interests and his personal financial interests. Keith has invested with several different advisors over time, and began to invest in alternative investments, specifically funds-of-funds and structured notes. Keith is very familiar with financial products and began questioning the wisdom of his financial advisors, and shared his concerns about structured notes with his advisor, specifically about Lehmans structured notes. He continued to question his advisor as the markets worsened. Two weeks before the Lehman bankruptcy, Keith agressively pursued getting out of the structured products notes again. Two major factors were not disclosed to Keith by his advisor: first, he was not told that the structured notes were basically unsecured corporate bonds; second, his advisor never told him that incentives were being provided to sell these structured products. Keith didn't even find out this information from his advisor, but from a lawyer who contacted him looking to sue the large firms. Keith felt wronged by his advisor, but attributes the behavior on a larger scale to the industry on the whole. Keith's trust was broken, and now Keith is looking for a new advisor. He is looking for trust and is therefore seeking referrals from his trusted friends. One of these referrals took him to a new prospect, who in the initial meeting, when hearing about the incentivized structured products sales, asked him - Well, how else are we supposed to make money? Keith has to laugh...
    • Maureen is a retiree with a 401k, with the kids gone & graduated from university. Suddenly, financial conditions changed for her husband's family, as her father- and mother-in-law both started to behave oddly with their investments. Both in their 90s, and living in an assisted living facility, the elderly couple became convinced that they had no more money left. As it turned out ... the elders were not correct about having no money, but their concern speaks to the future nightmare scenarios surrounding increasing healthcare costs that come with the onset of dementia that is becoming increasingly frequent as age expectancy rises

    The panel was extremely frank and the net impression was the most important quality an advisor can have is honesty and clarity of communication. A consumer in today's environment must question the motives and directives of the advisors available, and in response, it is vital that advisors respect their responsibilities to serve their clients' needs above all else.

    Tiburon CEO Summit XVI Ask the Advisors Panel
    Facilitated by Jenn Connelly
    (CEO, JCPR)
    Ask the Advisors Panel

    With a similar goal to the Ask the Consumers panel, four leading financial advisors participated on the Ask the Advisors panel to allow attendees to better understand the businesses and decision-making criteria of financial advisors. Facilitated by Jenn Connelly (CEO, JCPR), the panelists included Tom Lydon (President, ETF Trends), Mark Penske (CEO, United Advisors), Adam Sheer (President, The Roosevelt Group), & Bill Walsh (President, Hennion & Walsh). The financial advisors were selected from different backgrounds and approaches to the industry, providing a wide range of perspectives. Amongst the key points made by the panelists were.

    • Tom Lydon, of Global Trends, maintains 90 client relationships with high-net-worth individuals and maintains asset management responsibilities with tactical allocation via ETFs, all-the-while maintaining a blog called ETFTrends.Com that has begun to take up much of his time. His average clients size is $800,000. Tom spoke about the importance of client management and sang the praises of his blog, which he says makes his clients happy on a day-to-day basis. He told a story about asking his friend, a recent retiree, to perform a jovial & unstructured survey of his clients, which proved to him that he was in good shape. Tom's clients are almost all in equityETFtrends.com
    • Mark Penske, of United Advisors, maintains 1,500 client relationships with mass affluent advisors who maintain $500,000 to $2 million in revenues. His firm offers back-office support & compliance to advisors in the asset management, financial planning, & individual insurance space. His average client size is $500,000. Mark, like Tom, also recognizes the importance of personal touch, and by showing facts to his clients about prior market downturns, Mark's firm is able to maintain trust with his clients. He is attempting to pick up wirehouse advisors, and in so doing is trying to focus on the first impression coming from a primary referral call. Mark's value proposition is on providing support & compliance. Mark spoke of the ever-evolving role of business development departments within financial advisory firms
    • Adam Sheer, of The Roosevelt Investment Group, maintains 10,000 client relationships with high-net-worth individuals, corporations, endowments, foundations, & Taft Hartley plans, and maintains asset management responsibilities. His average client size is $500,000. Adam spoke about maintaining clean lines of communication with custodians, so that that line of communication can be relayed to the end consumers in a way that maintains confidence all the way up & down the supply chain. Responsiveness and flexibility were specifically identified as valuable qualities in custodians. Like Mark, Adam believes very strongly that there are huge numbers of opportunities for idea generation in business development
    • Bill Walsh, of Hennion & Walsh, maintains 15,000 client relationships with mass affluent, unaware high-net-worth individuals, with responsibilities that include fixed income portfolios, asset management, & mutual funds. His average client size is $500,000. Bill's firm has always managed downside risk very well, with a great sales force and good relative performance, doubling assets over the last year from $1.5 billion to $3.0 billion, and is looking for a great liftout opportunity that include cultural & investment synergies$500,000has shared ownership of his own company since entering into the financial services industry as a former engineer. Since 2000, his business has changed its name seven times as a result of being bought and sold several times over. This has given Mr. Pollock a significant perspective on client retention and on building relationships that last. He manages individual customized portfolios including stocks, with a special attention paid to estate and tax planning. With a 98.5% client retention rate, Mr. Pollock also says that constant communication with the client is the only way to go, and that by using trustworthy products and services, clients are empowered to stay with him. Mr. Pollock also added that by always doing the right thing an advisor will always have good clients

    Tiburon CEO Summit attendees valued the opportunity to listen to these advisors candidly discuss some of the strategies they've employed in trying to maintain client relationships and assets under management in these trying times.

    Tiburon CEO Summit XVI Ask the Gatekeepers Panel
    Facilitated by Bill Salus
    (Chief Business Development Officer,
    PNC Global Investment Servicing)
    Ask the Gatekeepers Panel

    In keeping with the Tiburon CEO Summit tradition of emphasizing the need to listen carefully to one's clients and prospective clients, the Tiburon CEO Summit Ask the Gatekeepers panel is the third part of this series. For many Tiburon clients (e.g., investment, insurance, & technology firms), understanding the workings of distribution firms is crucial to their firm's success in gaining access to an organization's network of financial advisors. Wirehouses such as Merrill Lynch, independent broker/dealers such as LPL Financial, and custodians such as The Charles Schwab Corporation can account for 50% or more of financial product companies' sales. Tiburon's Ask the Gatekeepers panel, facilitated by Bill Salus (Chief Business Development Officer, PNC Global Investment Servicing), allowed these types of distribution organizations to discuss their needs from investment management firms and other product providers through questions & answers. Four major distribution firms provided insights on how they serve financial advisors. Panelists included Bill Crager (President, Envestnet Asset Management), Steve Dunlap (Chief Operating Officer, Pershing Managed Account Solutions), AJ Harper (President, Advisor Port, PNC Global Investment Servicing, PNC Financial), & Brian O'Toole (CEO, Genworth Financial Management Wealth Management, Genworth Financial). Amongst their key points were:

    • Bill Crager, of Envestnet Asset Management, runs a turnkey asset management platform supporting a financial advisor force of 14,000 advisors with $60.0 billion in assets under management. Product listing philosophy includes open architecture across a broad range of investment product categories. Needs from products companies include extension of service model for advisors. Bill elaborated by expanding on Jud Bergman's earlier general session presentation description of being analagous to a cable platform that allows many different cable channel to run into a houseExtension of service model for advisorsr
    • Steve Dunlap, of Pershing Managed Account Solutions, runs an open-architecture platform & turnkey asset management provider supporting a financial advisor force of 100,000 advisors with $80.2 billion in assets under management. Product listing philosophy includes comprehensive suite of fee-based and advisory solutions, ranging from firm-directed to fully outsourced. Needs from products companies include transparency, competitive fees, value-added, and consultative sales support. Steve elaborated by indicating that Pershing, being such a ubiquitous firm with so many capabilities, seeks to be involved in gatekeeping across all aspects of the marketplace, specializing on every aspectConsultative sales supportp
    • AJ Harper, of Advisor Port, runs a customizable or turnkey asset management platform and advisory services business, with a financial advisor force of 20,000 advisors with $81.0 billion in assets under management. Product listing philosophy includes designing and implementing custom, open-architecture managed account solutions including award-winning flexible UMA, SMAs, and Fund/ETF wraps. Needs from products companies include integrated service model for advisor development. AJ elaborated by speaking to opportunities that exist in asset re-allocation through advancing technologies, speaking to his firm's responsibility of getting such technologies to market
    • Brian O'Toole, of Genworth Financial Wealth Management, runs a turnkey asset management platform and business consulting business supporting a financial advisor force of 6,500 advisors with $15.0 billion in assets under management. Product listing philosophy includes open architecture platforms including Best of Class Investment Managers as determined by Callan and Rocaton. Needs from products companies include accessibility, proven track record, and disciplined philosophy & processes. Brian elaborated by asking - Who is taking care of people like Joe Wurzelbacher? - as in, what is being done to take care of all those directed funds accounts for the non mass affluent & high-net-worth individual investor markets. Gatekeeping in a nimble way is the question

    The panel added perfectly to the Tiburon CEO Summit's agenda of focusing the CEO-level attendees on client needs. Across the board, the panelists concluded that the current conditions are shaping an environment in which nimble and open-minded gatekeeping will allow recovery for the marketplace and open up new markets for each firm.